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17th Oct 2019 18:42 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Is there any truth to the story that the real reason for the name Kinoite was after the dog Kino that belonged to one of the discoverers?

17th Oct 2019 18:55 UTCTony Nikischer Manager

First I have heard of it! Although Rruffite is named for a cat, the original paper in AmMin for kinoite indicates it was named for the Jesuit known as Padre Kino....

17th Oct 2019 19:01 UTCPaul Brandes Manager

Agree with Tony.
I had heard it was named for Jesuit missionary Eusebio Francisco Kino who roamed around Arizona and the Sonoran Desert.

17th Oct 2019 22:09 UTCPaolo Bosio Expert

Kinoite was named in honour of Father Eusebio Francisco Kino [Eusebio Francesco Chini] (1645-1711), Jesuit missionary in the territories of Arizona and Sonora, explorer, cartographer, and writer. He was one of the earlier explorers of the deserts of the American Southwest; he proved that the Lower California is a peninsula, the Baja California - not an insland as it was previously belived.
He was born on August 10, 1645 in the village of Segno, Predaia, Val di Non, Trento, County of Tyrol, Holy Roman Empire (later Austrian Empire and Austro-Hungarian Empire, presently Italy). His family name was originally Chini and until now there are still Chinis living in his home village. He distinguished himself in the study of mathematics, cartography, and astronomy in Germany and taught mathematics for some times at the University of Ingolstadt. He became a Jesuit, i.e. a member of the Society of Jesus, in 1665. His work as a missionary began in 1678 and he was assigned to the Spanish colony of Mexico. Kino arrived in Mexico City in the spring of 1881. After an unsuccessful attempt to found a settlement in Baja California in 1683, he began his longtime missionary work among the Pima Indians in Pimeria Alta, a district comprising present-day southern Arizona and the northern portion of Sonora State, Mexico. In 1687, Father Kino established his first mission among the Indians of Sonora at Nuestra Senora de los Dolores. It became the headquarter for his explorations, as well as for the founding of new missions, including San Xavier del Bac (1700) near Tucson, Guevavi, and Tumacacori (declared National Monument by President Theodore Roosvelt). In 1691, Father Kino made the first of about 40 expeditions into Arizona; in 1694, he was the first European to visit the Hohokam ruins at Casa Grande. His explorations of the area around the mouth of the Colorado River in 1701 convinced him that Baja California was a peninsula, not an island. His 1705 map was the standard reference for the soutwestern desert region for more than one century. Father Kino helped the Pima Indians in diversifying their agriculture and aided them in their continuous wars with the Apaches, while opposing Indian enslavement in the silver mines of northern Mexico. His diary Favores celestiales or Cronica de la Pimeria Alta was translated into English as the two-volume Kino's Historical Memoir of Pimeria Alta in 1919. He suddenly died on March 15, 1711.

20th Oct 2019 14:23 UTCLarry Maltby Expert

Paolo, Thanks for the detail about Father Kino. With your interest in history I thought that you would like to see a photo of Mission San Xavier del Bac southwest of Tucson.

20th Oct 2019 14:27 UTCLarry Maltby Expert

And Mission Tumacacori south of Tucson.

18th Oct 2019 08:54 UTCErik Vercammen Expert

There should be some of this infomation added to the kinoite page! The first choice to do it is Paolo for he gave us these information, otherwise I'll try to do it.

18th Oct 2019 10:43 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Yes, I know that's the official story, but was it true they had a dog called Kino??

20th Oct 2019 10:50 UTCErik Vercammen Expert

I have added a selection of this info to the kinoite page.

20th Oct 2019 13:27 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

This was the source of my curiosity! I didn't want to resurrect a buried thread just to follow up on this one comment.
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