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GeneralFollup-up to label enquiry (and further help)

18th Oct 2019 15:12 UTCJohn Cooke

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Thank you to all those who responded to my request for information on labels (showing early chemical notation) within a boxed mineral collection.  I need some more help!
From all the information given to me my frontrunner hypothesis is that the majority of the specimens originate from Saxony and were likely to have been assembled by the dealership, Dr.A.Krantz of Bonn (earlier of Freiburg).  Around 1850 (or before) he was in partnership with Samuel Highley of London, who distributed specimens and collections on his behalf in the U.K.  Krantz stated that labels could be in either German, French or English.  A further coincidence is that the specimen trays appear to be similar to those offered in their joint catalogue (photos attached).
I NEED PROOF
Have any of the readership got any further information on the partnership and has anyone seen other examples or knows the whereabouts of any other collections to which I might compare?
As yet I have not contacted the Krantz company, does anyone know who would be the best contact to approach and who would be sympathetic to the cause?

19th Oct 2019 14:18 UTCJohan Kjellman Expert

Hi John,
I sent a PM - did you get it?

19th Oct 2019 17:24 UTCJohn Cooke

Hi Johan,

I did read the article on the: 
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Thank you very much for pointing this out.  I couldn't find any references to supplying the British market, even though I am sure that they did.  If it is of any relevance my collection is unlikely to have been assembled before 1832 (there are anglesite specimens  present which weren't described until that year) and there is a specimen derived from the Duchy of Nassau, which ceased to exist  by 1866.  I know this isn't definitive proof but I favour a date of assemblage of 1840-1850.  This fits in very well with the scenario of Samuel Highley being the British agent of Krantz.  So, if I can persuade someone at Krantz to look into this, then they can at least say NO at which point I would have to look at alternatives including Heidelberg.  I have checked in Mick Cooper's book and can find no obvious associations with Heidleberg.
I would benefit from a Krantz archivist....please.
Johan, I do appreciate your interest, thank you very much.

20th Oct 2019 17:14 UTCUwe Haubenreisser

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Hello John,
I also have some comparable labels in my collection. They come from the Krantz stock. I bought them from Hans Peter Schröder in Frankenthal/Germany. He deals with a lot of historical material about Krantz and is sometimes in stock there. When I'm in Munich next week, I can ask him if he knows more about it.


20th Oct 2019 19:56 UTCJohn Cooke

Uwe,

Many thanks for the help.  It is much appreciated.  I feel I am getting close to the solution.  Would you direct Hans to the original enquiry placed on the board last week also?  I can provide further photos if required.
 
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