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Improving Mindat.orgCuraçao not under Carribean Netherlands

24th Jan 2020 08:08 UTCHerwig Pelckmans Expert

The mindat locality page for  Netherlands has Curaçao listed at the same level as its provinces.

IMHO Curaçao should instead be listed under Carribean Netherlands, together with and on the same level as Aruba and Bonaire.

24th Jan 2020 08:37 UTCKeith Compton Manager


You certainly appear to be right.

Using Wiki as a guide (and they are not always right, the four parts of the kingdom of the Netherlands are:

  (i) Netherlands;
 (ii) Aruba (a constituent country);
(iii) Curaçao (a constituent country);and
(iv) Sint Maarten (a constituent country).

So. we have four entiies.

The Caribbean Netherlands: comprises three special municipalities (Bonaire, Saba, and Sint Eustatius) plus the three constituent countries Aruba, Curaçao, and Sint Maarten.

It certainly appears that Curaçao and Sint Maarten should be grouped under Caribbean Netherlands.

I'll wait for others to chime in before changing, just in case.

24th Jan 2020 09:12 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Please don't change anything yet. 

24th Jan 2020 09:20 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

All of the Netherlands needs updating, we will look at this this afternoon

24th Jan 2020 09:21 UTCKeith Compton Manager


24th Jan 2020 13:10 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

The Caribbean Netherlands are the three special municipalities of the Netherlands that are located in the Caribbean Sea. They consist of the islands of Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba.

In terms of the formal use of the term (and the boundaries we have) this would exclude Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten. 

The term "Caribbean Netherlands" is sometimes also used to refer to all of the islands in the Dutch Caribbean, but our usage currently is correct.

I suggest a non-hierarchical level for 'Dutch Caribbean' to include all of these territories, and a similar 'European Netherlands' non-hierarchical locality for the European provinces. 

But please don't change the hierarchy.

24th Jan 2020 18:52 UTCNiels Brouwer

This is the current subdivision of the list of islands that before 2010 belonged to the former country of The Netherlands Antilles. After several referenda, all islands still belong to the Kingdom of the Netherlands, but with different legal status. The Kingdom consists of 4 constituent countries, three of the islands have become special municipalities and are part of the country of the Netherlands. The Caribbean Netherlands is the official collective term for these three special municipalities, which only has legal significance when it comes to the European Union, where it is classed as an overseas territory where EU law does not automatically apply.
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