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12th Feb 2020 19:32 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

I recently posted some images from the 1963 Frank Perham find of bertrandite, three parent images and 6 child images. I decided to post these in this way, as each parent illustrated a different habit or appearance of the specimen, which I thought would be of value to the community as well as to highlight the differences in the crystals. Iimages 
https://www.mindat.org/photo-1029358.html and 

I have now noticed that '58 and '56 are now child photos, and moreover, someone kindly edited '58 to read "Collected: 1963 by Frank Perhamp"

I actually take some care and consideration as to how I add photos to the data base, and do not add multiple parent images, with different MinID's, just to enhance photo count or because I don't care about such things.

In the future, please let me know if there are issues with multiple parent photos of the same specimen/Min-ID, and make sure that additional errors are not added to the captions.

Please don't take this as a criticism, as I do enjoy learning about my specimens and sharing images with the community; feedback is always helpful.

13th Feb 2020 18:17 UTCDebbie Woolf Manager

Jeff, I looked at this and the data shows no changes have been made since uploaded by you.

13th Feb 2020 22:07 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

Debbie - thank you for looking into this. Where there was once 3 parents and 6 children, there is now only one parent and 8 children - a more modern family, I guess. Could the system do this automatically? I did not enter the collected when and by information, so someone else must have done this, and I fixed their misspelling.

I have requested this in the past, and suggest that this be implemented. I don't mind if information gets modified, but I think as a courtesy to the uploader, they get a notification via PM, something simple like "A manager updated your (caption, image, description., etc.), click here to see the revised version" While I don't know much about modern programming, this should be easy to implement as both the image/item number, original poster, and whether they are still active on MinDat are all known and should be easy to call up from the data set.

Also, is there a way to convert child images into parent images, without replacing the current parent image (i.e., when once there was 1 parent, now there are 2, for the same species/MinID)?

14th Feb 2020 05:12 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

It's standard practice for us to merge photos of the same specimen to one parent.  This is to avoid people uploading six photos of the same specimen with different minIDs just to try to flood the galleries with their photos (which unfortunately happens a lot)

14th Feb 2020 09:38 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

That can be done by a manager. We had too many people who would create a circular reference of parent photos and then complain that they couldn't find their photos listed anywhere.

14th Feb 2020 14:00 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

I quite frequently see multiple images of same mineral, different MinIDs, some contributors are more notorious than others - I could flood management with 100's and 100's of reports, but get tired just thinking about it.

14th Feb 2020 14:04 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

Don't Jeff, that's what we are for. Improving MinDat is our goal.
Please give links to images and not MinId's.
Just copy the link in this topic.
Thank you.
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