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Star Quartz/s?

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Theodore Hansen Theo November 14, 2017 06:55AM
so I got this nice big chunk of what this lady called "girason quartz" but when I did some reasearch tonight I read somthing that said there is such a thing as "white star quartz" that displays asterism...is this true? is star quartz not only pink but white too!? I need an answer to figure this mystery out! im both excited and confused at this! any help is welcome!
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Debbie Woolf November 14, 2017 11:56AM
I think you mean girasol quartz which is a marketing term for quartz same as star quartz another marketing term due to its properties, star quartz is also known for quartz crystals with hollandite inclusion, popular terms for selling :-)

Here's a good article http://www.ebay.co.uk/gds/Girasol-Blue-Opal-Girasol-Quartz-Confusion-Explained-/10000000019653178/g.html



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/14/2017 11:57AM by Debbie Woolf.
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Mark Heintzelman November 14, 2017 06:00PM
to add to the issue, the mindat definition of "star quartz" , and the one I'm also more familiar with, refers to the shape of crystal grouping/formation, not the presence of asterism. https://www.mindat.org/min-398.html

We can't regulate the name dealers chose to sell there wares by, but we can at least avoid using contradictory terms ourselves. It's quartz that exhibits asterism, not "star quartz".
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Owen Lewis November 14, 2017 06:51PM
Star quartz,Mark.

Think of 'star' as an adjective modifying the noun 'quartz' to indicate that the occasional phenomenon of asterism is present in some quartz specimen being described. Only someone not understanding how words work together would insist that star quartz was a name (and hence a compound noun).
If you think that is dancing on the head of pin, well, yes it is. But let's keep to a handy four-character description rather than chasing after a very unhandy twenty-three character one, hey?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/14/2017 06:54PM by Owen Lewis.
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Mark Heintzelman November 14, 2017 07:10PM
Nothing in nomenclature, outside IMA protocol, is enforceable. All Mindat can offer outside official IMA nomenclature is "recommend use" of terminology. Owen at least offers an example that the effort with this is little more than building sandcastles to hold back the sea. People are free to do whatever they like in the Gem and Lapidary realm, and it shows.
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Wayne Corwin November 14, 2017 07:35PM
Should just be called "asterated quartz" then!
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Owen Lewis November 14, 2017 08:52PM
Wayne Corwin Wrote:
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> Should just be called "asterated quartz" then!

Wayne,
I'll see your nine char 'asterated' and raise you with a seven char 'starred'.

Now, before I go outside and shoot myself, will some kind person please show me in what way any of these polysyllabic work-arounds say, in context, any more or better than plain and simple 'star'. Isn't it amazing how many find the illusion of greater knowledge imparted by use of words with Latin roots?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2017 02:45PM by Owen Lewis.
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