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Poudretteite

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About PoudretteiteHide

Formula:
KNa2B3Si12O30
Colour:
Colourless, very pale pink
Lustre:
Vitreous
Hardness:
5
Crystal System:
Hexagonal
Member of:
Name:
The mineral was named in honor of the Poudrette family, owners and operators of the original R. Poudrette quarry, established in 1959, and from 1992 to 2007, the enlarged Poudrette quarry, which incorporates the former Demix and all other previously operated quarries into a single entity. The Poudrette quarry is one the world's great mineralogical treasures, and the type locality for more than 60 mineral species. The Poudrette family has contributed greatly to the mineralogical studies of Mont Saint-Hilaire by generously allowing access to their quarry.

Classification of PoudretteiteHide

Approved
9.CM.05

9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
C : Cyclosilicates
M : [Si6O18]12- 6-membered double rings (sechser-Doppelringe)
63.2.1a.8

63 : CYCLOSILICATES Condensed Rings
2 : Condensed Rings (Milarite - Osumilite group)
17.5.8

17 : Silicates Containing other Anions
5 : Borosilicates

Physical Properties of PoudretteiteHide

Vitreous
Transparency:
Transparent
Colour:
Colourless, very pale pink
Hardness:

Chemical Properties of PoudretteiteHide

Formula:
KNa2B3Si12O30
IMA Formula:
KNa2(B3Si12)O30

Crystallography of PoudretteiteHide

Crystal System:
Hexagonal
Class (H-M):
6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) - Dihexagonal Dipyramidal
Space Group:
P6/mcc
Setting:
P6/mcc
Cell Parameters:
a = 10.23 Å, c = 13.48 Å
Ratio:
a:c = 1 : 1.318
Unit Cell V:
1,221.72 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)

Type Occurrence of PoudretteiteHide

Synonyms of PoudretteiteHide

Other Language Names for PoudretteiteHide

Simplified Chinese:硼碱大隅石
Spanish:Poudretteita

Relationship of Poudretteite to other SpeciesHide

Member of:
Other Members of this group:
Agakhanovite-(Y)(YCa)□2KBe3Si12O30Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
AlmaruditeK(□,Na)2(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)2(Be,Al)3[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mmm
ArmeniteBaCa2Al6Si9O30 · 2H2OOrth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pnna
BerezanskiteK□2Li3(Ti,Zr,Sn)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
Brannockite(K,Na)□2Li3(Sn,Zr,Ti)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
DarapiositeK(Na,⃞,K)2(Li,Zn,Fe)3(Mn,Zr,Y)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
DusmatoviteK(Na,□)2(Zn,Li)3(Mn2+,Y,Zr)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
EifeliteKNa3Mg4Si12O30Hex.
FriedrichbeckeiteK(□0.5Na0.5)2Mg2Be3Si12O30Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
Klöchite(□Na)KFe2+2Zn3(Si12O30)Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P63/mmc
Merrihueite(K,Na)2(Fe,Mg)5Si12O30Hex.
MilariteK2Ca4Al2Be4Si24O60 · H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
OftedaliteK(Sc,Ca,Mn2+)22[(Be,Al)3Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
Osumilite(K,Na)(Fe2+,Mg)2(Al,Fe3+)3(Si,Al)12O30Hex.
Osumilite-(Mg)KMg2Al3(Al2Si10)O30 Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
Roedderite(Na,K)2(Mg,Fe)5Si12O30Hex. 6 m2 : P62c
ShibkoviteK(□,K,Na)2Zn3Ca2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
SogdianiteK(□,Na)2Li3(Zr,Fe,Ti)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
SugiliteK(Na,□)2Li3(Fe,Mn,Al,Zr)2[Si12O30]Hex.
Trattnerite□(Fe3+,Mg,Fe2+)2(Mg,Fe2+,Fe3+)3(Si12O30)Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
UM1990-73-SiO:KMnNaZn(K,Na)2Zn3Mn1.5Si12O30Hex.
Unnamed (Al-dominant analog of Sugilite)K(Na,□)2Li3(Al,Mn,Fe)2[Si12O30]
Yagiite(Na,K)3Mg4(Al,Mg)6(Si,Al)24O60Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m)

Related Minerals - Nickel-Strunz GroupingHide

9.CM.05ArmeniteBaCa2Al6Si9O30 · 2H2OOrth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pnna
9.CM.05Brannockite(K,Na)□2Li3(Sn,Zr,Ti)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05ChayesiteK(Mg,Fe)4FeSi12O30Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05DarapiositeK(Na,⃞,K)2(Li,Zn,Fe)3(Mn,Zr,Y)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05EifeliteKNa3Mg4Si12O30Hex.
9.CM.05Merrihueite(K,Na)2(Fe,Mg)5Si12O30Hex.
9.CM.05MilariteK2Ca4Al2Be4Si24O60 · H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05Osumilite-(Mg)KMg2Al3(Al2Si10)O30 Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05Osumilite(K,Na)(Fe2+,Mg)2(Al,Fe3+)3(Si,Al)12O30Hex.
9.CM.05Roedderite(Na,K)2(Mg,Fe)5Si12O30Hex. 6 m2 : P62c
9.CM.05SogdianiteK(□,Na)2Li3(Zr,Fe,Ti)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05SugiliteK(Na,□)2Li3(Fe,Mn,Al,Zr)2[Si12O30]Hex.
9.CM.05Yagiite(Na,K)3Mg4(Al,Mg)6(Si,Al)24O60Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m)
9.CM.05BerezanskiteK□2Li3(Ti,Zr,Sn)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05DusmatoviteK(Na,□)2(Zn,Li)3(Mn2+,Y,Zr)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05ShibkoviteK(□,K,Na)2Zn3Ca2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05AlmaruditeK(□,Na)2(Mn2+,Fe2+,Mg)2(Be,Al)3[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mmm
9.CM.05Trattnerite□(Fe3+,Mg,Fe2+)2(Mg,Fe2+,Fe3+)3(Si12O30)Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.05OftedaliteK(Sc,Ca,Mn2+)22[(Be,Al)3Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
9.CM.10FaizieviteK2Na(Ca6Na)Ti4Li6[F2|Si24O66]Tric. 1 : P1

Related Minerals - Dana Grouping (8th Ed.)Hide

63.2.1a.1Brannockite(K,Na)□2Li3(Sn,Zr,Ti)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
63.2.1a.2ChayesiteK(Mg,Fe)4FeSi12O30Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
63.2.1a.3DarapiositeK(Na,⃞,K)2(Li,Zn,Fe)3(Mn,Zr,Y)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
63.2.1a.4EifeliteKNa3Mg4Si12O30Hex.
63.2.1a.5Merrihueite(K,Na)2(Fe,Mg)5Si12O30Hex.
63.2.1a.6Osumilite(K,Na)(Fe2+,Mg)2(Al,Fe3+)3(Si,Al)12O30Hex.
63.2.1a.9SugiliteK(Na,□)2Li3(Fe,Mn,Al,Zr)2[Si12O30]Hex.
63.2.1a.10Yagiite(Na,K)3Mg4(Al,Mg)6(Si,Al)24O60Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m)
63.2.1a.11DusmatoviteK(Na,□)2(Zn,Li)3(Mn2+,Y,Zr)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
63.2.1a.12MilariteK2Ca4Al2Be4Si24O60 · H2OHex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
63.2.1a.13SogdianiteK(□,Na)2Li3(Zr,Fe,Ti)2[Si12O30]Hex. 6/mmm (6/m 2/m 2/m) : P6/mcc
63.2.1a.14Roedderite(Na,K)2(Mg,Fe)5Si12O30Hex. 6 m2 : P62c

Related Minerals - Hey's Chemical Index of Minerals GroupingHide

17.5.1ManandoniteLi2Al4(Si2AlB)O10(OH)8Orth.
17.5.2ReedmergneriteNaBSi3O8Tric.
17.5.3SearlesiteNa(H2BSi2O7)Mon. 2 : P21
17.5.4OleniteNa(Al3)Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3O3(OH)Trig.
17.5.5ElbaiteNa(Li1.5Al1.5)Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH)Trig. 3m : R3m
17.5.6KalborsiteK6Al4BSi6O20(OH)4ClTet.
17.5.7BoromuscoviteKAl2(BSi3O10)(OH)2Mon.
17.5.9LiddicoatiteCa(Li2Al)Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH)Trig. 3m : R3m
17.5.10DatoliteCaB(SiO4)(OH)Mon. 2/m : P21/b
17.5.11DanburiteCaB2Si2O8Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
17.5.12HowliteCa2B5SiO9(OH)5Mon. 2/m : P21/b
17.5.13BakeriteCa4(H5B5Si3O20)Mon. 2/m : P21/b
17.5.14OyeliteCa10Si8B2O29 · 12.5H2OOrth.
17.5.15KornerupineMg3Al6(Si,Al,B)5O21(OH)Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
17.5.16HarkeriteCa12Mg4Al(BO3)3(SiO4)4(CO3)5 · H2OTrig. 3m (3 2/m) : R3m
17.5.17SerendibiteCa4[Mg6Al6]O4[Si6B3Al3O36]Tric. 1 : P1
17.5.18Stillwellite-(Ce)(Ce,La,Ca)BSiO5
17.5.19Tadzhikite-(Ce)Ca4Ce3+2Ti⃞(B4Si4O22)(OH)2Mon.
17.5.20Melanocerite-(Ce)(Ce,Ca)5(SiO4,BO4)3(OH,0)Hex.
17.5.21Okanoganite-(Y)(Na,Ca)3(Y,Ce)12Si6B2O27F14
17.5.22Tritomite-(Ce)Ce5(SiO4,BO4)3(OH,O)
17.5.23Tritomite-(Y)Y5(SiO4,BO4)3(O,OH,F)
17.5.24Cappelenite-(Y)Ba(Y,Ce)6Si3B6O24F2Trig. 3 : P3
17.5.25Dumortierite(Al,Fe3+)7(SiO4)3(BO3)O3Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
17.5.26Holtite(Ta0.60.4)Al6BSi3O18(O,OH)2.25Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pnma
17.5.27DraviteNa(Mg3)Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH)Trig. 3m : R3m
17.5.28 FerridraviteNaFe3+3(Mg2Fe3+4)(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3O
17.5.29Axinite-(Mg)Ca2MgAl2BSi4O15OHTric.
17.5.30Uvite SeriesCa(Mg3)MgAl5(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(F/OH)Trig. 3m : R3m
17.5.31GarrelsiteBa3NaSi2B7O16(OH)4Mon.
17.5.32TienshaniteKNa3Na6Ca2Ba6Mn6(Ti4+,Nb)6B12Si36O114(O,OH,F)11Hex. 6/m : P6/m
17.5.33LeucospheniteBaNa4Ti2B2Si10O30Mon.
17.5.34TaramelliteBa4(Fe3+,Ti,Fe2+,Mg)4(B2Si8O27)O2ClxOrth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pmmn
17.5.35TitantaramelliteBa4(Ti,Fe3+,Fe2+,Mg)4(B2Si8O27)O2ClxOrth.
17.5.36NagashimaliteBa4(V,Ti)4B2Si8O27(O,OH)2ClOrth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pmmn
17.5.37Chromium-draviteNa(Mg3)Cr3+6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH)Trig.
17.5.38WawayandaiteCa6Mn2BBe9Si6O23(OH,Cl)15Mon.
17.5.39Werdingite(Mg,Fe)2Al14Si4B4O37Tric.
17.5.40Axinite-(Mn)Ca2Mn2+Al2BSi4O15(OH)Tric. 1 : P1
17.5.41AxiniteTric.
17.5.42TinzeniteCa2Mn2+4Al4[B2Si8O30](OH)2Tric.
17.5.44SchorlNa(Fe2+3)Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH)Trig. 3m : R3m
17.5.45Fluor-buergeriteNa(Fe3+3)Al6(Si6O18)(BO3)3O3FTrig. 3m : R3m
17.5.46FeruviteCa(Fe2+)3MgAl5(Si6O18)(BO3)3(OH)3(OH)Trig. 3m : R3m
17.5.47Axinite-(Fe)Ca2Fe2+Al2BSi4O15OHTric. 1 : P1
17.5.48HomiliteCa2(Fe2+,Mg)B2Si2O10Mon. 2/m : P21/b
17.5.49Grandidierite(Mg,Fe2+)(Al,Fe3+)3(SiO4)(BO3)O2Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
17.5.50Hyalotekite(Pb,Ba,K)4(Ca,Y)2(B,Be)2(Si,B)2Si8O28(F,Cl)Tric. 1 : P1
17.5.51Hellandite-(Y)(Ca,REE)4Y2Al⃞2(B4Si4O22) (OH)2Mon.

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Health Risks:
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References for PoudretteiteHide

Reference List:
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GRICE, J.D., ERCIT, T.S., VAN VELTHUIZEN, J., and DUNN, P.J. (1987) Poudretteite KNa2B3Si12O30, a new member of the osumilite group from Mont Saint Hilaire, Quebec. Canadian Mineralogist, 25, 763 766.
SMITH, C.P., BOSSHART, G., GRAESER, S., HÄNNI, H., GÜNTHER, D., HAMETNER, K., and GÜBELIN, E.J. (2003) Poudretteite: a rare gem species from the Mogok Valley. Gems & Gemology, Spring 2003, 24-31.
Grew, E.S., and Anovitz, L.M. (1996) BORON: Mineralogy, Petrology and Geochemistry, second edition, as revised (2002).

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Localities for PoudretteiteHide

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Locality ListHide

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All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
Canada (TL)
 
  • Québec
    • Montérégie
      • La Vallée-du-Richelieu RCM
        • Mont Saint-Hilaire
Grice, J.D., Ercit, T.S., VanVelthuizen, J. and Dunn, P.J. (1987), Poudretteite KNaB3Si12O30, a new member of the osumilite group from Mont Saint-Hilaire, Quebec. Canadian Mineralogist: 25: 763-766.
Myanmar
 
  • Mandalay Region
    • Pyin-Oo-Lwin District
Gems & Gemology, Spring 2003: 24-31.; SXRD and EDS-analysed, Franz Neuhold, Vienna
        • Kyatpyin North
Ted Themelis (2008) Gems & mines of Mogok
        • Mogok Valley
Themelis, Ted, 2008, Gems and Mines of Mogok.; Ted Themelis (2008) Gems & mines of Mogok
        • Pein-Pyit (Painpyit; Pyan Pyit)
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