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Veenite

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About VeeniteHide

Formula:
Pb2(Sb,As)2S5
As is essential.
Bulk composition of SXRD-analysed sample (Topa & Makovicky, 2017) is: Ag0.15Pb16.029Sb8.836As6.99S39.95.
Colour:
Steel-gray
Lustre:
Metallic
Hardness:
3½ - 4
Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Member of:
Name:
Named after Rudolf Willem van der Veen (1883-1925), metallographer.
Dufrenoysite-Veenite Series.

Sartorite homologue, N = 4; the structure is based on zig-zag walls of prismatic [3]Pb; these walls separate slabs comprising diagonally-oriented double layers containing Sb and As, and some Pb. Orientation of three-membered crankshaft chains containing (As,Sb)–S is substantially different from that in dufrénoysite.


Classification of VeeniteHide

Approved
Approval Year:
1966
2.HC.05d

2 : SULFIDES and SULFOSALTS (sulfides, selenides, tellurides; arsenides, antimonides, bismuthides; sulfarsenites, sulfantimonites, sulfbismuthites, etc.)
H : Sulfosalts of SnS archetype
C : With only Pb
3.5.9.2

3 : SULFOSALTS
5 : 2.5 < ø < 3
5.6.20

5 : Sulphosalts - Sulpharsenites and Sulphobismuthites (those containing Sn, Ge,or V are in Section 6)
6 : Sulpharsenites etc. of Pb alone

Physical Properties of VeeniteHide

Metallic
Transparency:
Opaque
Colour:
Steel-gray
Streak:
Black with weak brown tint
Hardness:
3½ - 4 on Mohs scale

Chemical Properties of VeeniteHide

Formula:
Pb2(Sb,As)2S5

As is essential.
Bulk composition of SXRD-analysed sample (Topa & Makovicky, 2017) is: Ag0.15Pb16.029Sb8.836As6.99S39.95.

Crystallography of VeeniteHide

Crystal System:
Monoclinic
Class (H-M):
2 - Sphenoidal
Space Group:
P21
Setting:
P21
Cell Parameters:
a = 8.429(2) Å, b = 20.069(5) Å, c = 8.962(2) Å
β = 117.447(2)°
Ratio:
a:b:c = 0.42 : 1 : 0.447
Unit Cell V:
1,345.38 ų (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:
1
Comment:
Data from Topa & Makovicky (2017). Orthorhombic pseudocell with a' = 0.5a = 4.22, b = 26.2, c = 7.90 Å. Space group of the pseudocell is P21cn or Pmcn. The X-ay powder pattern closely resembles that of dufrénoysite.

Type Occurrence of VeeniteHide

Synonyms of VeeniteHide

Other Language Names for VeeniteHide

Relationship of Veenite to other SpeciesHide

Member of:
Other Members of this group:
ArgentobaumhaueriteAg1.5Pb22As33.5S72Tric. 1 : P1
ArgentodufrénoysiteAg3Pb26As35S80Tric. 1 : P1
ArgentoliveingiteAgxPb40-2xAs48+xS112Tric. 1 : P1
BarikaiteAg3Pb10(Sb8As11)S40Mon. 2/m : P21/b
BaumhaueritePb12As16S36Tric. 1 : P1
BernarlottiitePb6(As5Sb3)S18Tric. 1 : P1
BoscardiniteTlPb4(Sb7As2)S18Tric. 1 : P1
Carducciite(Ag2Sb2)Pb12(As,Sb)16S40Mon. 2/m : P21/b
DufrénoysitePb2As2S5Mon. 2 : P21
ÉcrinsiteAgTl3Pb4As11Sb9S36Tric. 1 : P1
EnneasartoriteTl6Pb32As70S140Mon. 2/m : P21/b
GuettarditePbAsSbS4Mon. 2/m : P21/b
HendekasartoriteTl2Pb48As82S172Mon. 2/m : P21/b
HeptasartoriteTl7Pb22As55S108Mon. 2/m : P21/b
HyršlitePb8As10Sb6S32Mon. 2 : P21
IncomsartoriteTl6Pb144As246S516Mon. 2/m
LiveingitePb9As13S28Mon.
ParapierrotiteTlSb5S8Mon. m
PhilrothiteTlAs3S5Mon. 2/m : P21/b
PierrotiteTl2(Sb,As)10S16Orth. mm2 : Pna21
PolloneiteAgPb46As26Sb23S120Mon. 2 : P21
RathiteAg2Pb12-xTlx/2As18+x/2S40Mon. 2/m : P21/b
SartoritePbAs2S4Mon. 2/m : P21/m
Twinnite Pb0.8Tl0.1Sb1.3As0.8S4Mon. 2/m
Forms a series with:

Related Minerals - Nickel-Strunz GroupingHide

2.HC.05bArgentobaumhaueriteAg1.5Pb22As33.5S72Tric. 1 : P1
2.HC.05bBaumhaueritePb12As16S36Tric. 1 : P1
2.HC.05eChabournéiteTl4Pb2(Sb,As)20S34Tric. 1 : P1
2.HC.05dDufrénoysitePb2As2S5Mon. 2 : P21
2.HC.05aGuettarditePbAsSbS4Mon. 2/m : P21/b
2.HC.05cLiveingitePb9As13S28Mon.
2.HC.05fParapierrotiteTlSb5S8Mon. m
2.HC.05fPierrotiteTl2(Sb,As)10S16Orth. mm2 : Pna21
2.HC.05dRathiteAg2Pb12-xTlx/2As18+x/2S40Mon. 2/m : P21/b
2.HC.05aSartoritePbAs2S4Mon. 2/m : P21/m
2.HC.05aTwinnite Pb0.8Tl0.1Sb1.3As0.8S4Mon. 2/m
2.HC.05gMarumoitePb32As40S92Mon. 2 : P21
2.HC.05eDalnegroite(Tl4Pb2)(As12Sb8)S34Tric. 1 : P1
2.HC.10aFülöppitePb3Sb8S15Mon. 2/m : B2/b
2.HC.10cHeteromorphitePb7Sb8S19Mon. 2/m : B2/b
2.HC.10bPlagionitePb5Sb8S17Mon. 2/m
2.HC.10dRayitePb8(Ag,Tl)2Sb8S21Mon.
2.HC.10dSemseyitePb9Sb8S21Mon. 2/m : B2/b
2.HC.15BoulangeritePb5Sb4S11Mon. 2/m : P21/b
2.HC.15FalkmanitePb3Sb2S6Mon.
2.HC.20RobinsonitePb4Sb6S13Mon. 2/m : P21/m
2.HC.25MoëloitePb6Sb6S14(S3)Orth. 2 2 2 : P21 21 2
2.HC.30DadsonitePb23Sb25S60ClTric. 1 : P1
2.HC.35OwyheeiteAg3+xPb10-2xSb11+xS28, -0.13 < x > +0.20Mon. 2/m : P21/b
2.HC.35ZoubekiteAgPb4Sb4S10Orth.
2.HC.40ParasterryiteAg4Pb20Sb14As10S58Mon. 2/m : P21/b

Related Minerals - Dana Grouping (8th Ed.)Hide

3.5.9.1CosalitePb2Bi2S5Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
3.5.9.3DufrénoysitePb2As2S5Mon. 2 : P21

Related Minerals - Hey's Chemical Index of Minerals GroupingHide

5.6.1SartoritePbAs2S4Mon. 2/m : P21/m
5.6.2DufrénoysitePb2As2S5Mon. 2 : P21
5.6.3LiveingitePb9As13S28Mon.
5.6.4BaumhaueritePb12As16S36Tric. 1 : P1
5.6.5GratonitePb9As4S15Trig. 3m : R3m
5.6.6JordanitePb14(As,Sb)6S23Mon. 2/m : P21/m
5.6.7FülöppitePb3Sb8S15Mon. 2/m : B2/b
5.6.8ZinkenitePb9Sb22S42Hex. 6 : P63
5.6.9PlagionitePb5Sb8S17Mon. 2/m
5.6.10HeteromorphitePb7Sb8S19Mon. 2/m : B2/b
5.6.11LaunayiteCuPb10(Sb,As)12S20Mon.
5.6.12PlayfairitePb16(Sb,As)19S44ClMon.
5.6.13SemseyitePb9Sb8S21Mon. 2/m : B2/b
5.6.14MadocitePb19(Sb,As)16S43Orth.
5.6.15BoulangeritePb5Sb4S11Mon. 2/m : P21/b
5.6.17RobinsonitePb4Sb6S13Mon. 2/m : P21/m
5.6.18GuettarditePbAsSbS4Mon. 2/m : P21/b
5.6.19Twinnite Pb0.8Tl0.1Sb1.3As0.8S4Mon. 2/m
5.6.21SorbyiteCuPb9(Sb,As)11S26Mon. 2/m : B2/m
5.6.22GeocronitePb14(Sb,As)6S23Mon. 2/m : P21/m
5.6.23GalenobismutitePbBi2S4Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
5.6.24CosalitePb2Bi2S5Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
5.6.25CannizzaritePb48Bi56S132Mon. 2/m : P21/m
5.6.26LillianitePb3-2xAgxBi2+xS6Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m)
5.6.27GiessenitePb27Cu2(Bi,Sb)19S57Mon. 2/m
5.6.28Platynite
5.6.29XilingolitePb3Bi2S6Mon.
5.6.30WeibullitePb5Bi8Se7S11Orth.
5.6.31WittitePb9Bi12(S,Se)27Mon.
5.6.32KirkiitePb10Bi3As3S19Mon. 2/m : P21/m
5.6.33UstarasitePb(Bi,Sb)6S10 (?)

Other InformationHide

Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.

References for VeeniteHide

Reference List:
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JAMBOR, J.L. (1967): New lead sulfantimonides from Madoc, Ontario. 1. Canadian Mineralogist 9, 7-24.
JAMBOR, J.L. (1967): New lead sulfantimonides from Madoc, Ontario. 2. Mineral descriptions. Canadian Mineralogist 9, 191-213.
JAMBOR, J.L. (1968): New lead sulfantimonides from Madoc, Ontario. 3. Syntheses, paragenesis, origin. Canadian Mineralogist 10, 507-521.
Walia, D. S. & Chang, L. L. Y. (1973): Investigations in the systems PbS-Sb2S3-As2S3 and PbS-Bi2S3-As2S3. Can. Mineral., 12, 113-119.
JAMBOR, J.L., LAFLAMME, J.H.G. & WALKER, D.A. (1982): A re-examination of the Madoc sulfosalts. Mineralogical Record 13, 93-100.
Topa, D. & Makovicky, E. (2017): The crystal structure of veenite. Mineralogical Magazine, 81, 355-368.

Internet Links for VeeniteHide

Localities for VeeniteHide

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Locality ListHide

- This locality has map coordinates listed. - This locality has estimated coordinates. ⓘ - Click for further information on this occurrence. ? - Indicates mineral may be doubtful at this locality. - Good crystals or important locality for species. - World class for species or very significant. (TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species. (FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties). Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality. Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (eg from pseudomorphs.)

All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
Australia
 
  • Queensland
    • McKinlay Shire
      • McKinlay
USGS Open-File Report 2009-1252 Sediment-hosted zinc-lead deposits of the world - Database and grade and tonnage models
Bolivia
 
  • Potosí Department
    • Antonio Quijarro Province
Econ Geol (1997) 92:623-632
Canada (TL)
 
  • Ontario
    • Hastings Co.
      • Madoc area
        • Huntingdon Township
JAMBOR, J.L. (1967): New lead sulfantimonides from Madoc, Ontario. 1. Canadian Mineralogist 9, 7-24. JAMBOR, J.L. (1967): New lead sulfantimonides from Madoc, Ontario. 2. Mineral descriptions. Canadian Mineralogist 9, 191-213. JAMBOR, J.L. (1968): New lead sulfantimonides from Madoc, Ontario. 3. Syntheses, paragenesis, origin. Canadian Mineralogist 10, 507-521. JAMBOR, J.L., LAFLAMME, J.H.G. & WALKER, D.A. (1982): A re-examination of the Madoc sulfosalts. Mineralogical Record 13, 93-100.
    • Kenora District
      • GTP Block 7 Township
Anthony, Bideaux, Bladh, Nichols: "Handbook of Mineralogy", Vol. 1, 1990; Geoffrey Khalil Abdallah (1990) Ore Mineralogy of Mattabi Mine, Northwestern Ontario, Canada. MSC Thesis, Lakehead University
Chile
 
  • Atacama Region
    • Copiapó Province
      • Tierra Amarilla
        • Pampa Larga district
          • Alacrán
sample analysed by Dr. Frank Keutsch, Wisconsin University
Germany
 
  • Rhineland-Palatinate
    • Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler
      • Ahrbrück
        • Martinsknipp
Beyer, H. (1978): Über Haldenfunde aus den Antimonitgängen von Ahrbrück (Eifel)..., Der Aufschluß, 29, 401-408
Greece
 
  • Attikí Prefecture (Attica; Attika)
    • Lavrion District (Laurion; Laurium; Lavreotiki Municipality)
      • Lavrion District Mines
        • Plaka
          • Plaka Mines
Voudouris, P., Melfos, V., Spry, P. G., Bonsall, T., Tarkian, M. & Economou-Eliopoulos, M. (2008): Mineralogical and fluid inclusion constraints on the evolution of the Plaka intrusion-related ore system, Lavrion, Greece. Mineralogy and Petrology 93, 79-110
Mexico
 
  • Mexico
    • Mun. de Temascaltepec
      • Temascaltepec de González (Temascaltepec)
Camprubi, A., Canals, A., Cardellach, E., Prol-Ledesma, R.M., Rivera, R., 2001, The La Guitarra Ag-Au low-sulfidation epithermal deposit, Temascaltepec district, Mexico: vein structure, mineralogy, and sulfide-sulfosalt chemistry. Society of Economic Geologists Special Publication, v. 8, p. 133-158.
Peru
 
  • Huancavelica Department
    • Huancavelica Province
Birnie, R. W. and Petersen, U. (1977): The paragenetic association and compositional zoning of lead sulfosalts at Huachocolpa, Peru. Economic Geology 72, 983-992; Anthony, Bideaux, Bladh, Nichols: "Handbook of Mineralogy", Vol. 1, 1990
Romania
 
  • Maramureș Co.
    • Baia Mare (Nagybánya)
      • Chiuzbaia (Kisbánya)
http://minerals-of-the-carpathians.eu; Cook, N. J. & Damian, G. S. (1997): New data on "plumosite" and other sulfosalt minerals from the Herja hydrothermal vein deposit, Baia Mare district, Rumania. Geologica Carpathica 48, 387-399.
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