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Pyrochlore Supergroup (Var: Betafite (of Hogarth 1977)) : (Ca,Na,U)2(Ti, Nb,Ta)2O6Z(OH)

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minID: 1Q7-58X

Pyrochlore Supergroup (Var: Betafite (of Hogarth 1977)) : (Ca,Na,U)2(Ti, Nb,Ta)2O6Z(OH)

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Dimensions: 1.5 cm x 1 cm x .5 cm

I bought this from Gunnar Färber at the 2020 Tucson Gem and Mineral Show. It was labelled as "brannerite", and said to have been found by locals in the summer of 2018 in a ricefield near Ambolotara.

According to mindat the current formula for this mineral is UTi2O6 and often contains impurities; an older formula is (U4+,REE,Th,Ca)(Ti,Fe3+,Nb)2(O,OH)6. My attached Si-PIN XRF indeed shows Ti, Fe, and Nb but also Ta. This made me question the identity because what has been reported from this locality is betafite:

https://www.mindat.org/gallery.php?loc=45769&min=649

However, Gunnar is a very knowledgeable mineralogist and provided me the following SEM/EDX data, which is consistent with my XRF results but more quantitative:
Probe 7
4966
Betafo
Hellbraun wachsartig
Wt% At%
O 20,23 64,09
Ti 15,85 16,78
U 44,07 9,38
Nb 11,13 6,07
Ta 7,94 2,22
Al 0,77 1,45

Knut Edvard of mindat explained the id as follows:
We are - for now- sticking with the "betafite (of Hogarth 1977)" as designation for these- in lack of other ways of labeling these correctly. A chemical analysis (SEM-EDS) are not really sufficient alone to fully identified these complex compounds, even together with a XRF. It gives a good idea what it might be though. A XRD, after heating, would also be necessary to exactly identify it.

I have now done a more detailed XRF comparing this specimen to a betafite from Betafo (https://www.mindat.org/ML6-R47). The nice thing about having Gunnar's SEM/EDX data is that it allows me to roughly calibrate my XRF measurements. I have known that my SiPIN detector sensitivity decreases with energy and I have always suspected that the Ti peaks are actually much higher than they look. Gunnar's SEM/EDX At% for Ti compared to U is roughly 2X whereas my XRF Ti and U peaks are roughly 1/5. This says that I can use a rule of thumb of multiplying the Ti peak by 10 when comparing it to the U peak and even more when comparing it to Nb.

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Photo added:1st Mar 2020
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Camera:PANASONIC DMC-FZ150

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Mindat Photo ID:1033901 📋 (quote this with any query about this photo)
Long-form Identifier:mindat:1:4:1033901:4 📋
GUID:086472d2-59b1-4db3-bbfd-b87e5ff2e407 📋
Specimen MinID1Q7-58X (note: this is not unique to this photo, it is unique to the specimen)

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