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Improving Mindat.orgWrong locality

4th Aug 2008 16:15 UTCCristian Biagioni Expert

The sphalerite crystals shown in http://www.mindat.org/photo-166345.html are not from Seravezza quarries but probably from Bottino mine, Stazzema, Lucca Province, Tuscany, Italy. Infact we can see that sphalerite is associated with quartz and carbonate (it is difficult to say from the photo because it is a close-up of sphalerite, but I think it is siderite), in a paragenesis typical of Pb-Zn-Ag deposit exploited in Bottino mine. Seravezza quarries were opened in marble outcrops and the samples of sphalerite coming from there are on marble matrix.


ciao

Cristian

4th Aug 2008 16:52 UTCPeter Haas

Message sent.

4th Aug 2008 17:21 UTCMatteo Chinellato Expert

its good ask to Domenico Preite he have give to me the piece

5th Aug 2008 18:59 UTCCristian Biagioni Expert

Ok Matteo, but if sphalerite is associated with quartz and siderite (maybe on schist matrix), then it can not be a sample from Seravezza marble quarries, but from Bottino mine. This mine is near Seravezza, even if it is in the municipality of Stazzema.


ciao

7th Aug 2008 08:05 UTCMarco Barsanti Manager

Hi all, i se just now this topic. I totally agree with Cristian. Your specimen is almost undoubtfully from Bottino mine and surely, not coming from Seravezza marble quarries, where sphalerite has been found, but surely not in that kind of paragenesis! Please, correct!

7th Aug 2008 08:30 UTCMatteo Chinellato Expert

ahi ahi Domenico....

7th Aug 2008 15:09 UTCDomenico Preite Expert

Scrivo in Italiano così sono più chiaro.

Mi apreva di avere cartellinato la sfalerite come Miniera Bottino di Seravezza... come indicato dal gentile scopritore il generoso Marco Barsanti.

La stessa dizione di miniera è utilizzata dal Fleisher quando documenta la località tipo della bottinoite.

A tale riguardo chiedo anch'io se si tratta di "vecchi errori" e se va bene per Mineiera Bottino la attuale descrizione in Mindat..

Forse CHINELLATO nel fare la foto annebbiato dai flash (che usa per fare le sue bellissime foto)

non ha visto il nome Bottino (come gli capita spesso), ahi ahi Matteo...

Se qualcuno "dei saggi" volesse gentilemente cimentarsi in un breve astract in Inglese del mio messaggio gliene sarei grato, eccetto

ovviamente METEOR che girerebbe il tutto a suo favore...come sempre

CIAO A TUTTI

7th Aug 2008 15:12 UTCMatteo Chinellato Expert

grosso errore, io non uso i flash.....orribili....io di solito riporto quel che è scritto nella etichetta.

7th Aug 2008 16:29 UTCCristian Biagioni Expert

Hi Domenico

in some old papers Bottino mine is also called "Miniera del Bottino di Seravezza".

8th Aug 2008 07:10 UTCDomenico Preite Expert

Thank you Cristian this is a suggestive name for "Bottino Mine".
Matteo I know that you don't use the flash

but is only to create an enphasys in my dialog......

Your photo's quality are high, very high, CIAOO
 
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