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Identity HelpUnknown from Rockport Quarry, Michigan
12th Dec 2010 04:26 UTCTaylor Vergin
12th Dec 2010 06:55 UTCScott Sadlocha
Looks like calcite, and possibly dolomite. There looks to be some scalenohedral calcite crystals in the first picture. One way to check is to try an acid test. Break a piece off and drop it in some type of dilute acid (HCl commonly sold as muriatic acid for pools, CLR cleaner, or even vinegar should do), and it should fizz. When using an type of acidic substance, please be careful and follow precautions.
Were you able to get into a lot of the quarries in that area? That is one part of Michigan I have not collected in yet (from SE Michigan myself), but wouldn't mind getting up there. Are there a lot of collecting opportunities?
12th Dec 2010 14:53 UTCRonald John Gyllenhammer Expert
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Also, the crystals seem
to have a dusting of another mineral covering
them, which to me seems like pyrite or
chalocpyrite.
Hi Taylor,
Possibly as you say or it may be Marcasite. You can check this with a loupe or a microscope.
Happy holidays,
Ron
12th Dec 2010 15:38 UTCTaylor Vergin
Ron, I found marcasite on other rocks in this quarry, so I'm guessing that it's marcasite that's dirtying my crystals. If it helps, the "dust" seems to have a goldish color to it, which is what had me thinking pyrite.
Scott, I did the acid test with vinegar, and the crystals I used fizzed pretty noticably. It's definitely calcite, as you said. This post was more of a reality check for me, I knew it was calcite, but I wanted it to be celestine so bad!
The Northeast of the Lower Peninsula is definitely worth a rock collecting visit, though. Maybe only a weekend trip, but theres definitely enough out there to make it worth your while. For the Alpena area, the only locality worth visiting is the Rockport Quarry. Its part of the Rockport Mineral Reserve, and seems to be public property (there were absolutely no No Trespassing Signs or fences) . The amount of material here is absolutely amazing. The entire quarry floor is covered in rock, and it has yet to filled with water. The size of the quarry is about 3/4 mile by 1/2 mile, so you could easily spend a day there. While there, we found calcite, dolomite, marcasite and a bunch of different fossils.
There are other quarries in the area, namely the Lafarge Company Quarry (still in operation), the Stoneport Quarry (operational), the Calcite Quarry in Rogers City (I wonder whats found there...operational), and the Paxton Quarry (not operational and filled with water, but marked with a host of No Trespassing Signs).
However, if your interested, theres more rock collecting to be found down near Tawas City. There's about 5 different gypsum quarries to the west of the city. We only visited two of them, the Alabaster Quarry and U.S. Gypsum Quarry, however both were operational, so we were forced to collect on the piles outside the actual property. We still came away with some beautiful orange alabaster, and a few pieces of selenite. There's also collecting to be found along the train tracks that leave the quarries. Still farther south, near Au Gres, is another quarry, but it's on an extension of the Bayport Limestone. We were unable to tell if it was private property because there weren't any No Trespassing signs, or gates on the road to enter it. We decided, against our better judgement, to take a quick peek. The quarry has obviously been long abandoned, and every building on it was old and dilapidated. Even on our 15 minute visit, we found some nice calcite, and geodes inside flint pockets. It's definitely worth a visit there if we can find if anyone owns the property and get their permission. There were a few other quarries in that area, but at that point it was raining pretty steadily, so we left and went home.
Overall, if your interested in Michigan collecting (as I am), its worth your time. Being from SE Michigan myself, I love to visit the UP and collect in the Copper and Iron Districts, but these areas are a little closer to home. If you have more questions, I'd love to answer them.
12th Dec 2010 17:04 UTCTaylor Vergin
Paxton Quarry
This photo is of the only unknown I have from this locality. Any ideas on this would be very helpful. It coated the outside of some shale outcrops, and is very fragile. The crystals seem to be dendritic.
The first of my dolomite specimens from Paxton.
My second dolomite specimen. The crystals are perfect rhombs and totally transparent.
12th Dec 2010 17:11 UTCTaylor Vergin
Chalcedony after Dolomite. At least, I think the white coating is chalcedony.
First of my pyrite "suns".
Second Pyrite "Sun".
12th Dec 2010 17:16 UTCScott Sadlocha
I have collected downriver, as well as up in the thumb, and in the northwest part of the lower peninsula (Traverse City area), but I have yet to collect in the southwest and northeast.
As for your first picture, I can't be sure, but it looks like gypsum growth, possibly "post-mining". It can exhibit some interesting crystal growth, and the fragile aspect fits with it.
12th Dec 2010 17:26 UTCTaylor Vergin
Third Pyrite "Sun".
Rockport Quarry
Dolomite coating Limestone
Dolomite Vein, seems to be crystals of another type aswell.
12th Dec 2010 17:35 UTCTaylor Vergin
Au Gres Quarry
Calcite, not much more to say...
Never seen anything like this in Michigan before, and the exciting news is that they are everywhere at this quarry!
Alabaster Quarry
Beautiful Pink Gypsum var. Alabaster
12th Dec 2010 17:44 UTCTaylor Vergin
12th Dec 2010 18:23 UTCEverett Harrington Expert
Well I'm in the South Western side of MI, these places are about three hours to drive to, if either of you two want some company...I could meet you guys there :) I have a little quarry across from the Cheney quarry in Bellevue MI that I can get into, however, they were not deep enough as of last year to have anything really exciting, a few larger pyrite xls to about 1/2-1 inch but very very weathered, also a few calcites but not much else...
KOR
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12th Dec 2010 19:31 UTCScott Sadlocha
I think it would be great to collect together, especially since we missed meeting up at the Detroit show. Bellevue is not far from me at all, and would be an easy trip.
And, as far as anything exciting, that is okay. I just enjoy getting outdoors and collecting, especially when it is with other collectors and interesting discussion ensues. I am usually happy finding just about anything interesting. We should plan something when the weather lets up a bit.
12th Dec 2010 19:45 UTCEverett Harrington Expert
Are you by chance going to Tucson this year? I'll be there, perhaps a meet there? If not we will for sure at least see how the Bellevue is coming along in the spring, the owner/op is a great guy who will take care of us :) It's been quite some time since I've been out hammering on something...I've bought a fix-r-up house and have spent the last year fixing it. Seems to put a dent in the rock collecting fund..but alas, I'm going to get some collecting in this upcoming year! so Plan on it :) Here is a link to one trip to this quarry. Trip Also a photo of one of the pyrite finds attached
KOR
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12th Dec 2010 20:52 UTCPaul Brandes 🌟 Manager
12th Dec 2010 21:16 UTCEverett Harrington Expert
Give me some dates, maybe we can work something out??
:)
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12th Dec 2010 23:19 UTCScott Sadlocha
Unfortunately, I don't think I will be going to Tucson this year. I had hoped to go, but I believe family circumstances and obligations will prevent my attendance. I understand about the house, too. Between working around my house, and working on my camper/RV, I have lost a bit of time and money the past couple years. Still, I would love to get together and collect, just to get out and get the experience of it. I wanted to go more last year but there were a few trips I had to cancel. I am hoping to get out quite a bit more next year, even if they are simple and inexpensive day trips. I am also hoping to get to the UP a bit more next year, even if I have to drive like mad to spend a couple days up there.
If you and Paul get some dates together and my schedule agrees, I sure wouldn't mind tagging along on that trip.
4th Aug 2011 22:01 UTCScott Sadlocha
Everett,
Have you had a chance to do much collecting this year? I haven't had the chance to do much at all, and I am hoping to remedy that a bit between now and the end of the fall. In another post I had recently, I asked about collecting in western Michigan, and Dana Slaughter mentioned an abandoned quarry in Bellevue, and I am wondering if it is the same one you referenced.
Just wondering if anyone got anything going along the lines of this topic/posting. Thanks-
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