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PhotosAtacamite - Copiapó Province, Atacama Region, Chile
16th Nov 2013 20:00 UTCRoger Sedgwick
17th Nov 2013 02:19 UTCMaurizio Dini Expert
it looks like that you may have some whitish to yellowish Halloysite botroids on your sample. This is probably a piece from La Farola mine, Tierra Amarilla, Copiapo, which we have plenty in mindat. From your pic I can't distinguih if you have more asociated minerals. If you can make a close-up of the piece, probably I can help you better.
warmest from Chile
Maurizio Dini
17th Nov 2013 02:24 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager
17th Nov 2013 03:28 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager
17th Nov 2013 06:45 UTCMark Heintzelman 🌟 Expert
MRH
17th Nov 2013 17:05 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager
So the little green things are probably pseudomalachite
The blue balls look like sampleite as the caption cays, but others call this pseudomalachite:-S
How does one know that these blue balls aren't chrysocolla?
Looks like the blue balls are chrysocolla.
But when the blue balls are xl aggregates it is sampleite.
17th Nov 2013 18:22 UTCMark Heintzelman 🌟 Expert
I previously assumed it was Olivenite as well, strictly from the appearance, but apparently it's presence has been discounted. See: http://www.mindat.org/locentry-616308.html
Just again looked closely at the one good association piece I have from La Farola (have two beautiful cabinet Atacamites, but are so pure, they're a bit of a yawn, mineralogically speaking). Still, these would not jump out at me for a Liebethinite I.D., but apparently that's what EDS has to say about it. The pseudomalachite on this piece is fairly typical looking, both in xtls and botryoidal (as I figured I was seeing in the image in question) and neither are as bright blue as the "Sampleite" image you've referred to here.
MRH
Atacamite, Halloysite, Liebethinite (not Olivenite) & pseudomalachite, on Glassy green silicous unknown - La Farola (5.5 cm)
17th Nov 2013 18:41 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager
Having gone through the exercise, I now think the blue balls in the first photo of my last post are sampleite. Do others who know more agree?
Sampleite and Chrysocolla have the same colour from here, but the sampleite show xls and of course chrysocolla does not. I can't tell if the pseudomalachite is xlized but it is quite green, unlike the chrysocolla and sampleite.
17th Nov 2013 19:13 UTCMark Heintzelman 🌟 Expert
I also noticed that some some of the Pseudomalachite is encrusted with micro Halloysite which is likely the cause for the lighter color in the first photo as it is on some areas with the specimen I have here. There is no evidence on mine for anything like that brilliant blue sampelite or any Chrysocolla, so I can't speak to that directly. The amorphous glassy silicate that these crystals developed on is not typical for Chrysocolla, so I'm not sure what it is. (?)
MRH
20th Nov 2013 00:21 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager
20th Nov 2013 14:25 UTCSimone Citon Expert
20th Nov 2013 19:30 UTCRob Woodside 🌟 Manager
21st Nov 2013 18:35 UTCRoger Sedgwick
Roger
21st Nov 2013 20:28 UTCMaurizio Dini Expert
at La Farola we have virtually all the minerals you mentioned, often is difficult to distinguish exactly every each Cu chlorides...more easy to tell if we have Cu Po. For sure we do have sampleite at La Farola, but since the mine has several workings and benches, the newest flat tabular gemmy atacamite xls showed in RAO and Luigi Mattei (RIP) pics, are indeed sampleite mica-like thin xls. This mineral has been found in the last 2-3 years.
They are intense blue, similar to lavendulan colour. Liebethenite is also not uncommon, it occurs as tiny light to olive green prisms with typical face-xls termination. Till now NO clinoatacamite has been analysed and confirmed, we often have green ball-like pseudomalachite after atacamite, while chrysocolla grains are quite different from sampleite colour. Olivenite occurs as green acicular sprays with flat and uncomplete termination, quite difficult to distinguish them from liebethenite. For those who has sampleite and atacamite, you have a Po indicator, so the asociated green prism should be very likely liebethenite.
take care
maurizio
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