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Identity HelpNoob seeks help classifying minerals from Beryl Pit near Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.

18th Sep 2014 23:01 UTCTom Grossman-Wall

Hi, I am extremely new to mineral collecting. Over the weekend I went up to the area around my cottage known as the "Beryl Pit" which is a pay to access "pit" that you can collect a lot of cool stuff from for a flat fee of $7. It was really cool and my gf and I caught the mineral collecting bug! found some minerals and am curious what they are and I need to know exactly what they are so I can accurately list them on my mindat home page.


1. This specimen is the size of a baseball. I am curious what the green crystals are? I was guessing fluorite but I'm not sure. http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah110/wallgjtom1985/Minerals-Brudenell-Lyndoch-Raglan-Townships/Fluorite_zps27f084d7.jpg http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah110/wallgjtom1985/Minerals-Brudenell-Lyndoch-Raglan-Townships/macrogreencrystal_zps7501ff30.jpg http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah110/wallgjtom1985/Minerals-Brudenell-Lyndoch-Raglan-Townships/GreenMatrix_zps76a5675d.jpg


2. I believe this is a piece of a beryl crystal but it has other things in it like quartz? It's about as wide as my wrist. 3.5 inches in width (approx). http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah110/wallgjtom1985/Minerals-Brudenell-Lyndoch-Raglan-Townships/Specimen1_zpsd8a90d7e.jpg http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah110/wallgjtom1985/Minerals-Brudenell-Lyndoch-Raglan-Townships/BerylUpclose2_zps0eefb200.jpg http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah110/wallgjtom1985/Minerals-Brudenell-Lyndoch-Raglan-Townships/BerylCrystalSide_zps961d39c4.jpg


3. I think this is beryl but I'm not sure. http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah110/wallgjtom1985/Minerals-Brudenell-Lyndoch-Raglan-Townships/GreenPinkBerylSide2_zps0314834f.jpg http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah110/wallgjtom1985/Minerals-Brudenell-Lyndoch-Raglan-Townships/GreenPinkBeryl_zps3146b66f.jpg


Anyways, I think that's enough stuff for you to look at. Thanks in advance for your expertise!


=Tom=

19th Sep 2014 00:51 UTCMatt Neuzil Expert

All of that green you found is beryl. A scratch test would show that the beryl should scratch glass. Most fluorite at beryl pit is raspberry red. I've seen purple fluorite there also and sometimes it is clear if exposed to sunlight. Some of those smaller beryls that are still in the pegmatite matrix have a nice green colour

19th Sep 2014 01:30 UTCTom Grossman-Wall

Thank you for your valuable information! So you believe all of the green stuff in my photos is beryl? Thank you so much I appreciate i!! :-)

19th Sep 2014 03:05 UTCWayne Corwin

Tom


All your stuff should clean up real nice if you put it thru some Super Iron Out (SIO)

Check out Rock Currier's Article on cleaning Quartz ( scroll down to "5. Waller Solution (Iron Out)" )

Cleaning Quartz

20th Sep 2014 00:35 UTCMatt Neuzil Expert

The beryl that occurs in the finer grained pegmatite I think tends to be more green and translucent. The larger longer crystals are the ones that aren't as pretty and likely gone through some kind of degradation. Sometimes you can find interesting tourmaline crystals there too. If you are into radioactive crystals there are nice rare-earth specimens.


Check out the beryl pit page and see what others have found.


Matt

21st Sep 2014 00:00 UTCTom Grossman-Wall

Thanks so much! I actually found lots of Tourmaline. I found one rock that was 1ft by 2 ft in size and it was 90% tourmaline. Very black beautiful stuff. I love the structure of it. I kept some tourmaline. I'm worried about collecting radioactives by accident and not knowing they are radioactive...lol. Also I am looking at the Ontario governments abandoned mine site, and it shows where abandoned mines are on google earth and I've found a bunch of old trench mines from the 60's that are abandoned and contained things like allanite, Titanite (sphene), uranothorite, uraninite, garnet etc. I'm going to try and locate some on my gps (very carefully) just incase there is old adits or shafts etc.


Thanks again your help! I'll buy some iron out and see if I can clean them up! :)

21st Sep 2014 02:36 UTCMatt Neuzil Expert

If you are on the site for that data I think you're looking on, I think they state if the deposit had any known cuts, adits or shafts. There's many occurrences and deposits out there. Many seem to be on someone's property though. Good luck! You know for the bancroft area there is a guide book you should be able to get at the re-opened mineral museum. Also you can check out the message board post regarding all of Ann Sabina's publications made digital.

27th Sep 2014 04:01 UTCTom Grossman-Wall

Thank you so much Matt, you've been a huge help!
 
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