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Cornwallite : Cu5(AsO4)2(OH)4, Azurite : Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2

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minID: 0EH-9FL

Cornwallite : Cu5(AsO4)2(OH)4, Azurite : Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2

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Dark blue-green crusts of Cornwallite on blue spheres of Azurite, 7cm by 8cm. Rolf Luetcke specimen and photo.

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Photo added:16th Oct 2011
Dimensions:2650x2117px (5.61 megapixels)

Data Identifiers

Mindat Photo ID:418005 📋 (quote this with any query about this photo)
Long-form Identifier:mindat:1:4:418005:7 📋
GUID:010cfc71-6631-457a-b7f6-006586671991 📋
Specimen MinID0EH-9FL (note: this is not unique to this photo, it is unique to the specimen)

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PhotosWoodwardite - Gold Hill Mine, Gold Hill, Gold Hill District, Deep Creek Mts, Tooele Co., Utah, USA

23rd Oct 2011 21:16 UTCJames McGuire

Regarding the specimen pictured at http://www.mindat.org/photo-418005.html


I have a specimen that is almost identical (appear to be from the same pocket at Gold Hill) to this one which I purchased from Marcus Origlieri at Denver in 2010, including the same azurite spheres coated with a deep blue-green mineral. My label identifies the minerals involved as azurite coated with cornwallite, and when I asked Marcus confirmed that he analyzed it and confirmed cornwallite (though I confess to not remembering the details of the analytical procedure used). The above uploaded specimen above is identified as woodwardite on azurite. I'd like to work it out one way or another, but cornwallite seems to make more sense given the minerals listed for Gold Hill and my label. However, Rolf, if you have better information on which to base an ID, I'd be happy to hear it. I'm also curious as to any ideas on the light blue mineral. That being said, very nice specimen, Rolf!


Thanks,


James

24th Oct 2011 11:03 UTCLefteris Rantos Expert

If I had to identify something as "Woodwardite" from the photo, that would be the pale sky-blue to whitish crusts rather than the deep green overgrowths on the Azurite spheres.


Especially the pale sky-blue pseudomorphs after Azurite spheres seem quite plausible for a Woodwardite-group mineral.


Lefteris.

24th Oct 2011 15:22 UTCJames McGuire

Yes, very good point Lefteris. Mine has the same light blue mineral, which I assumed was chalcoalumite or something similar based purely on visual identification. I guess woodwardite could fit the bill for that material as well.

24th Oct 2011 17:42 UTCBrent Thorne Expert

Previously woodwardite has not been found at Gold Hill, Utah. I am also curious what analysis was done to confirm this species?

24th Oct 2011 17:55 UTCLefteris Rantos Expert

Woodwardite-group is only one possibility, of course. Chalcoalumite is another one, and I guess there are several more.


In the Lavrion Distr. mines, that I am more familiar with, these sky-blue crusts are a terrible headache! Only an analysis will tell for sure...


Lefteris.

26th Oct 2011 22:51 UTCClosed Account 🌟

Lefteris,


FYI: from my experiences with “woodwardite” from Lavrion:

1. In all my work on the Lavrion deposit I have only once come across a woodwardite which is pale blue (it currently resides in Fritz Schreiber’s collection and was found by the late Stathis Lazaridhis).

2. All other “confirmed” woodwardite (at least EDX and Powder Diffraction) has a very pale green to nearly white color. I have posted a picture of one such example.

3. Zincowoodwardite from Lavrion is white to pale blue. I have seen many cases where dealers have sold serpierite as zincowoodwardite.

4. During my stay at Lavrion in May this year some material was unearthed by local collectors, reportedly from the Christiana Mine, consisting of ugly light blue crusts on calcite/aragonite matrix with gypsum, malachite, brochantite and little langite. This material was sold as woodwardite. I received a specimen of this material from Michalis Kazamiakis, but could not confirm any woodwardite on this specimen.

5. During my stay at Lavrion in September this year I noticed that a huge amount of this material has been mined (with plates up to 50 x 50 cm). I bought a specimen from this find from a local collector, but again there was no woodwardite to be found.


Branko

2nd Nov 2011 19:36 UTCLefteris Rantos Expert

Hi Branko,


Very interesting points here... And any clue on the actual ID of the pale green bubbly crusts from the 2011 find? Indeed the material is ubiquitous in dealers here in Greece. I got a large plate too recently, keeping my fingers crossed as to its ID.


Lefteris.

2nd Nov 2011 20:51 UTCSteve Rust Manager

I know some work done recently has indecated that so called "woodwardite" from South Caradon Mine, St.Cleer, Cornwall is probably a Cu,Al Gel, and more work is required to pin it down., can not say more than this at the moment.

29th Nov 2011 22:22 UTCRolf Luetcke Expert

Well, my mistake, you were absolutely right. I checked my records and a mistake was made in transcribing from the original label to the specimen label with the photograph. I am truly sorry about the mix up. My photo label has been corrected.

Rolf Luetcke

30th Nov 2011 01:59 UTCJames McGuire

No worries. Thanks for the update, Rolf.
 
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