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GeneralArizonal locality
20th Nov 2016 19:59 UTCR. Peter Richards Expert
I can find nothing about this locality. The only Constellation I can find is in Yavapai County, not far to the north of the northern border of Maricopa County. No apatite group minerals are listed from there!
Does anyone have any information about an appropriate locality for these crystals?
Thanks,
Pete Richards
20th Nov 2016 20:12 UTCChester S. Lemanski, Jr.
20th Nov 2016 23:27 UTCgeorge stevens (2)
21st Nov 2016 03:25 UTCR. Peter Richards Expert
Pete
21st Nov 2016 03:36 UTCR. Peter Richards Expert
1) The previous inquiry was prompted by discovering that the locality for one of my specimens did not seem to make sense.
2) I was looking at that specimen because I got a new sample recently that had no locality information at all.
3) The new sample is similar to the specimens I started this thread with in being an apatite group mineral with yellow prisms and orange tips, though the new ones are really elongated crystals, and characterized by their splitting at the ends where they turn orange.
4) Preliminary EDS seems to indicate that these are mimetite with a vanadinite core - more work on oriented cross sections is needed....
5) EDS also indicates that tiny associated crystals are descloisite.
So what I REALLY want to know is where these elongated crystals come from. Most likely from the southwest, possibly Arizona but maybe not.
Any offers on this one?!!! The crystals shown are about 1 to 2 mm long.
21st Nov 2016 03:38 UTCDana Slaughter 🌟 Expert
George is a veteran AZ field collector and has been to more AZ localities than almost anyone imaginable---his response here can certainly be trusted.
21st Nov 2016 15:48 UTCR. Peter Richards Expert
21st Nov 2016 15:55 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager
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21st Nov 2016 16:04 UTCR. Peter Richards Expert
21st Nov 2016 16:39 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager
21st Nov 2016 22:32 UTCgeorge stevens (2)
Also in Amazon Wash there are prospects with very bright vanadinite and Wulfenite, not sure just where in the wash its a pretty big area. Your Sammy Dog Mine Mimetite has several other mine names Gods Claim,Copper Point prospect and the actual mine name is the Ironwood Mine located west of Silver Bell Mine several miles in Pima County.
22nd Nov 2016 03:10 UTCR. Peter Richards Expert
Pete Richards
3rd Dec 2016 03:16 UTCR. Peter Richards Expert
Though I'm not sure my sample is really from the Sammy Dog Mine, it might be worthwhile to check other examples. Vanadinite is not listed from there.
23rd Sep 2017 15:15 UTCGöran Axelsson Expert
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> I believe that there existed at least one Black
> Butte claim specimen in the historic Arthur L.
> Flagg (1883-1961) collection donated to the Flagg
> Mineral Foundation by the Flagg family of Tucson.
> The name is familiar to me and I think that
> perhaps a Flagg catalog entry is what I
> remember...I may be wrong. I'll have to check the
> over 5000 entries in the catalog and will respond
> in time.
A bit off topic from this discussion, but is there an online source of the Flagg collection?
The reason I'm asking is that I have three specimens that came from the Flagg collection and I was curious if there was some more history to find out about them. For example where he acquired them and when.
The specimens are :
3455 Berzelianite, Skrikerum, Sweden
3466 Högbomite, Routevara, Jokkmokk, Sweden
3487 Ludwigite, Tallgruvan, Norberg, Sweden
Göran
23rd Sep 2017 17:40 UTCKevin Conroy Manager
26th Sep 2017 07:35 UTCGöran Axelsson Expert
27th Sep 2017 08:45 UTCPhil Richardson
I am the chairman of the Flagg Mineral Foundation and came across this topic. I was also involved in the Foundation acquiring the collection, and in the dispersal of the portion of the collection which didn't fit our focus.
In checking Mr. Flagg's catalog, specimens 3455 and 3466 match his entry, and there is a note indicating that specimens 3451 through 3474 were purchased by gift certificate from Wards Natural Science Establishment, gift from members of the Mineralogical Society of Arizona. No date is given, but it would have to be between 1935 to 1961. With these two specimens, you are lucky to have that much information, because the majority have no notes associated with them.
Now a problem exists with 3487, as the catalog lists red stilbite and laumontite, Prospect Park, New Jersey for that number. The closest catalog entry, for that species, is 3462, ludwigite & magnetite, Phillipsburg, Montana.
In the catalog there are only two listings for ludwigite. 3462, as previously mentioned, and 4784, Dog Lake mine, Big Cottonwood, Utah.
Phil Richardson
21st Oct 2017 15:03 UTCGöran Axelsson Expert
It was very interesting to hear some background on these specimens. I have added them to my catalogue and pictures are coming soon. I'll include some in this thread meanwhile.
I have dug down a bit more in my notes from when I acquired these specimens. They were all bought in 2013. The last tricky one is quite rough on the surface so I might have misinterpreted the number on that one. It was also sold as "Fluoborite (TL), Ludwigite - Tall mine, Norberg, Sweden".
The correct number might be 3467. It definitely isn't the "Ludwigite and magnetite" specimen as there are no magnetic minerals in this one. The surface is a bit weathered except for one side that is cut. I don't feel confident that the minerals are what the label says so I have filed this under questionable specimens requiring more testing.
Is there an entry for #3467 and what does it say?
And here is the other two rocks.
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