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Improving Mindat.orgSunrise Mine error

13th Oct 2016 00:00 UTCRolf Luetcke Expert

The SE Arizona mine called the Sunrise Mine is wrong. The mine is listed under the Tombstone district and even when you go to the mine in the explination under mine name it says Bisbee Mining District. The mine is obviously in the wrong place.

I have even been in the tower over the Sunrise mine and it is in Bisbee, near the Shattuck Mine.

Someone needs to take it out of the Tombstone District, which is wrong and place it in the Bisbee Mining District.

Rolf Luetcke

13th Oct 2016 13:46 UTCRolf Luetcke Expert

David,

If you look at the mine symbol for the "Tombstone Sunrise Mine" it shows the symbol right where the one in Bisbee is. Something is off here. In my Cochise County mines book there is no Sunrise Mine listed for Tombstone, only the one in Bisbee. The Min. Record first issue article on Bisbee also explains the information about the Sunrise mine the mindat symbol sits on.

There may be one in Tombstone also, Sunrise is a common name in other places also but the symbol for this one on mindat put it smack in Bisbee.

Rolf

13th Oct 2016 13:59 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

The Sunrise http://www.mindat.org/loc-55665.html is an amalgamation of two mines into the mindat database, the Sunrise claim in Tombstone (The Resources of Arizona - A Manual of Reliable Information Concerning the Territory, compiled by Patrick Hamilton (1881), Prescott, AZ: 38.), and with the other information applying to the one in Bisbee.


It started out as 22/Aug/04

Added name 'Sunrise Mine, Tombstone, Tombstone District, Cochise Co., Arizona, USA'

Added description '‡Ref.: The Resources of Arizona - A Manual of Reliable Information Concerning the Territory, compiled by Patrick Hamilton (1881), Prescott, AZ: 38.'


but the first edit 10/Jun/08 added Bisbee info

Added description '‡Ref.: The Resources of Arizona - A Manual of Reliable Information Concerning the Territory, compiled by Patrick Hamilton (1881), Prescott, AZ: 38. Trischka, C. (1938), Bisbee district, in Some Arizona ore deposits, Arizona Bureau of Mines Bull. 145. MRDS database Dep. ID file #10258100, MRDS ID #D011807, MAS ID #0040030335. A former underground Cu-Pb-Au-Ag mine.'


The easiest way to fix it would be to move it to Bisbee and delete the 1881 reference and then add a new locality for Tombstone.

13th Oct 2016 16:29 UTCRolf Luetcke Expert

David,

The problem is with the 1881 reference, at that time much of SE Arizona was in the Bisbee District. Later works dropped the Tombstone mines from the Bisbee district. All the local references we have are much later, what I call "modern time" and the older references can confuse issues.

It is odd that the references in more modern times don't list the Sunrise Mine from Tombstone at all. Maybe it was absorbed by later claims that bought out the owners of the Tombstone Sunrise. Since I moved here in 1971, I had never heard of a Tombstone Sunrise. The well documented one is the one in Bisbee and as there had been a separate claim in Tombstone, it is probably what confused the issue. Seeing that the 1881 reference still calls Arizona a Territory shows how far back that is.

I believe your plan is the best since that older reference is no longer to be found in todays literature. Don't want to see something removed that existed historically. Unfortunately I don't have personal reference literature that goes back that far. Did look at the one you added in the first response and it is quite early, before the later information. Both could easily be in the mindat base but as you said, it needs to remove the Tombstone reference since it is already shown for the Bisbee location.

Thanks for your efforts. Since I live here and know the "modern" names of the mines I see these little inconsistencies.

Rolf

13th Oct 2016 16:48 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

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This doesn't look like anything near Bisbee and the context of the book, Bisbee mines are listed in a later section and stated to be 20 miles to the South of Tombstone.
 
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