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Improving Mindat.orgCrimea localities

17th Jan 2017 12:45 UTCReiner Mielke Expert

I think it is safe to say that this is now part of Russia not Ukraine. http://www.mindat.org/loc-2631.html

17th Jan 2017 15:37 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimea

says

"Controlled by Russia (except Ukrainian-controlled part of Arabat Spit), internationally recognised as part of Ukraine."

See also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_General_Assembly_Resolution_68/262

17th Jan 2017 16:00 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

We tried to come up with a non-political rule to deal with issues such as this.

From a purely non-political point of view we have to work on the basis of what is the most important criteria for mineral collectors as to whether a territory should be listed as part of country A or country B - and that usually is which country would I need to apply for a visa to in order to visit the locality?

In this case clearly Crimea is part of Russia.

However, to avoid situations where territories are temporarily annexed and then later returned, we have stipulated a five year rule for contested regions (such as this case), so that in March 2019, assuming there are no changes to the current situation, we will move Crimea into the hierarchy of Russia.

This is no way indicates our support for the political status of Crimea one way or the other.

17th Jan 2017 16:16 UTCReiner Mielke Expert

"we have stipulated a five year rule " good idea.

17th Jan 2017 16:41 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

We have similar issues with disputed territories elsewhere, in particular the kuril islands off the coast of Japan, controlled by Russia since 1945 but claimed by Japan.

17th Jan 2017 17:22 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

What about Southern Osetia?

17th Jan 2017 17:48 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Good point, Pavel!

I'll look into that.

17th Jan 2017 18:10 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Have updated Ossetia and Abkhazia