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How to ContributeAdding maps to show geologic information in locality descriptions

7th Sep 2016 23:11 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Morro do Oura, Vazante, and Morro Aguda mines in the extreme northwest corner of Minas Gerais lack all but the most basic information. Morro Aguda says “Zn mining.” That’s it. DUH! There are no photos and no maps. I will add information about production and reserves, geologic history, and a list of seven minerals reported from there. I don’t think I can find precise coordinates for the mine, but I have found maps at reasonably large scales. They include a lot of information that isn’t needed, and, of course, there is the copyright issue. So, using the magic of Photoshop Elements (that’s all I have!), I have drawn my own base maps of Minas Gerais, and on one map I added a depiction of the area occupied by the Brasília Fold Belt, along with a few well-known cities that people might be familiar with (see below). I could also show the location of the Eastern Brazil Pegmatite Belt, and that would certainly put things in perspective. Can I add such a map to each of the localities I am working on? It’s not a regular Mindat locality map, and so I think it would not be part of the usual Mindat presentation. You know–clicking on the “Maps” box. I just want it to appear on the page with the text where I discuss the geology of the site. So far, I do not attempt to make it a precise locality map, and so far, each of the localities I am working on now could show the same map, at least until I get more sophisticated and can do some real drafting. How can this be accommodated?

8th Sep 2016 00:16 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

"How can this be accommodated?" - the new system will allow you to draw maps. Also if there is a klm or arcgis file, we should be able to display it in Google maps.

8th Sep 2016 11:33 UTCLarry Maltby Expert

Norm, that is a neat map!

Another idea would be to put your map in a Mindat article format as a Jpeg. You could also add as much generalized dialog as you want in the article. Then you could write specific location information on the location page and include your map as a link. In this manner your generalized map article could be used on multiple specific location pages.

8th Sep 2016 17:25 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Larry, Thanks. I think I need to experiment a bit. Adding the Eastern Brazil Pegmatite Province, where the Minas Gerais aquamarine and tourmaline are found, along with the Iron Quadrangle that supplies much of the Brazilian gold and emerald, might make such a map really enlightening yet not overly complicated. I could also discuss diamond and palladium localities with reference to that map, even though those alluvial commodities do not occur in especially noteworthy or distinctive geological provinces. David's comment tells me that help is on the way, however, so I will wait if the wait isn't too long.

David, how long do you think we have to wait until the new, improved system for Mindat locality descriptions comes alive?

8th Sep 2016 17:33 UTCDavid Von Bargen Manager

This year.

16th Nov 2017 14:39 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

I have drafted more maps to upload to locality pages. Today that would be for the locality Brazil. I also have some maps that I prepared in the past, such as for the Morro Aguda and Morro do Oura localities in Minas Gerais, Brazil, and would upload those now if it can be done (along with locality text for Brazil).

I also made a simple table (two columns, each with two bits of information) for Brazil. Can that be done, perhaps simply by manually spacing each line (clunky but doable)?

25th Nov 2017 21:52 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Last month I asked about the procedure for inserting maps in my write-ups for localities, but no replies were made (see my previous comments). David Von Bargen suggested that ability would be ready by the end of 2016. So, I’ll ask again.

I want to post my write-up on Brazil, and I will eventually have one for Minas Gerais. Surely, some of you would love to see how one can handle the minerals of Brazil in a page and a half or so (Brazil is just a bit larger than the lower 48 states in the U.S.) I saw that there is a geological map of the lower 48 on the mindat U.S.A. locality page. But there is no text accompanying it so no one knows why it is there or how it helps us understand anything for the mineralogy of the U.S. Anyway, it shows that it can be done. So, can anyone tell me how one does that, or where I can find instructions for doing it?

25th Nov 2017 22:14 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Have a look at this article, but in particular the last section and video

https://www.mindat.org/a/localities_that_span_boundaries

2nd Dec 2017 22:40 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

I was ready to work on this, and just looked at the video you mentioned. I must confess that I am completely bewildered here. It has nothing at all in it that seems to be pertinent to my issue.

In the present case, I am writing a description of the locality, Brazil–a quick introduction that I hope will be useful to many people. Why is Brazil important in mineral collecting, how does it compare in mineral wealth to the USA, where have major finds been made and what were those finds? When I mention Minas Gerais, you can see where it is. When I discuss amethyst, you can see where it is found in Brazil. How are mineral finds in Brazil related to geology? All of that in about two pages, maybe less (I haven’t seen it on a mindat page yet; maybe with embedded figures it will be longer).

OK, when I go to write something about a mindat locality, I get a text box. But as I go down a paragraph of two, it seems that there should be a map right there. Like in a mindat article. I uploaded this map just so I could show you–I made it a personal or miscellaneous jpg, so I can demonstrate. Here is one of the three maps I want to show. I drafted it myself, but from other maps I found in the Internet that don’t have any color and the explanations are at least somewhat different. I drew the boundaries. So this is my map, not anyone else’s. Of course, the information I used is public, and I got it on-line so there will be credits for major sources. But this diagram should be with the text, either in the same text box, or in space(s) between two or more text boxes that are invisible to the reader.

How can I do that? This is what I was asking about previously, what I understood David Von Bargen to be saying, and what I thought you would be showing. (Or maybe you all did, and I can’t tell!). This should be in the body of my locality description. How do I do that?

2nd Dec 2017 22:59 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

Ah! I understand, I thought you were trying to create localities based on these maps.

Ok,. To add this into a locality description you simply use the same code as you'd do for an article

eg something like

3rd Dec 2017 14:49 UTCLarry Maltby Expert

Great idea Norm, looking forward to seeing your effort. I hope you will give us a reference on the messageboard when your project has been completed.

Here are some more recent advances now on Mindat:

The addition of rocks and geology to the data base.

The addition of an index for mineral museums.

The addition of an index for gem and mineral shows.

Wow!

10th Dec 2017 20:31 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Jolyon,

No, that doesn't work. I got my caption there, but where is the photo? I did it like for an article, as you said, including the caption.

I tried this one: Figure 1. Map of Brazil showing states with their names. “D.F.” refers to the Distrito Federal, where the capital city of Brasília is located. Modified from Free World Maps on the Internet.

So, I have a text up for Brazil (the whole country), but the maps I refer to, and will have captions for, are not there. I drafted four maps and uploaded them as miscellaneous photos.

What do I do now?

10th Dec 2017 20:40 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

You missed out the / in the at the end.

The caption is wrong now, the map doesn't have a 'DF' that you refer to.

10th Dec 2017 21:50 UTCNorman King 🌟 Expert

Details, details. I put in the wrong photo ID--it was supposed to be 860132. That I can deal with. Thank you for checking it post haste. The geologic map comes later, with a different caption. Easy fix!

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