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Identity HelpFriedrich Mine, Germany unknowns

28th Aug 2010 04:25 UTCSteve Stuart Expert

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Hello, all- especially our German mineral experts! I found a small (about 0.5 cm) specimen in a collection of unmounted microminerals I am examining. It is labeled "Hauchecornite, Millerite" from "Freidrich, Sapgen, Germany". Much searching on Mindat led me to http://www.mindat.org/loc-11245.html. I still don't know what "Sapgen" means.


The most prominent sulfide-looking minerals I see are prismatic crystals with diamond-shaped striated cross-sections. See images below:

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I call them hauchecornite, but the crystals don't look to be tabular, tetragonal pyramids, as described in MinDat. Perhaps these are millerite?


Thanks for any and all help!


Steve


PS: There are also pink, green and yellow unknowns. The pink looks to be erythrite visually. I thought the yellow stuff might be a uranium mineral but there is no measurable radiation above background from the specimen.

28th Aug 2010 08:57 UTCStephan Wolfsried Expert

Arsenopyrite.


Stephan

28th Aug 2010 09:43 UTCHarjo Neutkens Manager

Hi Steve, the "Sapgen" should read Siegen.


Cheers


Harjo

28th Aug 2010 10:25 UTCSebastian Möller Expert

Hello,


Yes, those are arsenopyrites. Some of the arsenopyrites might be Co bearing, hence the erythrite. Co bearing minerals such as cobaltite, alloclasite, Co-baring arsenopyrite are not uncomon from the Siegerland area, usually occuring in quartz veins or in the hydrothermally altered rock next to the vein. This is what you have here.


You can see some photos of Minerals as well a list here: .


Regards,

Sebastian Möller

28th Aug 2010 13:28 UTCSteve Stuart Expert

Arsenopyrite had crossed my mind, but it's not listed in MinDat as being found at the Friedrich Mine. Is my specimen enough evidence to add it to the list?


Steve

28th Aug 2010 14:07 UTCTimothy Greenland

Ah see no pyrite either


(sorry about that)


Tim

29th Aug 2010 00:43 UTCSteve Stuart Expert

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Here are three more images (FOV about 2 mm). Any ideas about the green and yellow minerals?

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Thanks!


Tim, nice pun!

30th Aug 2010 19:53 UTCAlex Homenuke 🌟 Expert

scorodite (or perhaps annabergite) and iron staining?

31st Aug 2010 11:26 UTCSebastian Möller Expert

Hello,


The pale rosé in the first of thevnew pics seems to be annabergite, not erythrite. Such pale xls are Ni-dominant (or Mg-bearing) members of the Vivianite group, usually either Erythrite with Hörnesite or Ni-dominant members of the Annabergite-Erythrite series. At least in the Black Forest we have found lots of this stuff lately. The ore mineral underneath may be gersdorffite, which is not a uncommon paragenesis for such annabergite-erythrite xls. The green may be some copper or nickel mineral, but could also be scorodite.


Regards,

Sebastian Möller
 
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