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Identity HelpFluorite/Switzerland

25th Feb 2006 17:14 UTCChrisH.

Hello,

Is anybody familiar with fluorite from Switzerland? I'm looking for the exact

locality of this specimen. "Valais/Wallis" stood on the label but I'm not sure if it's right.

http://www.fluorit-sammlung.de/Bilder/SWZ-8-1.JPG

25th Feb 2006 17:40 UTCAntonio Borrelli Expert

That's the name for the third largest canton in Switzerland:

'Valais' in French

'Wallis' in German

'Vallese' in italian.

Fluorite is reported in many localities of this area.

Antonio

25th Feb 2006 18:59 UTCChrisH.

Hello Antonio

I know that there are many localities, that's why I'm asking if someone knows where mine is exactly from!

Best regards

ChrisH.

25th Feb 2006 20:33 UTCPeter Andresen Expert

maybe a photo would help then...

25th Feb 2006 21:15 UTCErik Vercammen

In Wallis/Valaisb there are several different localities for fluorite: you have pink ocathedrons from Alpine fissures near Fiesch or in the northern part of the Mont Blancmassif, but also ore veins up to 1 meter thick with crude white crystals. So, you need a photo or description to help with the ID of your specimen.

26th Feb 2006 21:13 UTCChrisH.

Oh IÂ´m so stupid. I thought I added a photo in the first posting. I had added a link which didn't show up (http:// in front won't let the link show up).

Here it is:

www.fluorit-sammlung.de/Bilder/SWZ-8-1.JPG

28th Feb 2006 21:50 UTCChrisH.

Hi,

doesn't anybody know where this piece could come from?

28th Feb 2006 22:23 UTCAlan Plante

Hi Chris

I think that what the gang is telling you is that it could be from any of several localities - that it is not distinctive enough to determine exactly which one it came from.

It's sort of the risk we take when we obtain specimens without good labels... :~{

Regards

Alan

2nd Mar 2006 18:28 UTCErik Vercammen

Maybe a collector from Wallis may recognize these form of XX. I'm from Belgium, but have passed holidays in Wallis several times, but I didn't see there XX like these. They don't look as if they come from Alpine fissures, but rather make me think of an ore-vein as origin. And according to the literature ans a bit own experience, in Wallis there are a lot of veins with fluorite in the Mont Chemin, south-east of the town of Martigny.

5th Mar 2006 17:17 UTCPhilip Mostmans Expert

Would be suprised if cubocateaders occured anywhere near the 'pink' fluo area. The colour itself is more likey to occur in Obernberg (is listed in mindat, check the photos).

Cheers!

Philip

6th Mar 2006 19:09 UTCChrisH.

Hello Philip,

yes, I know the fluorites from Obernberg, but in comparison with a piece from there that I have there are several differences. If I don't get anything more exact then the specimen will be taken out of my collection.

8th Mar 2006 07:59 UTCManfred Kampf Expert

Hi Chris,

maybe your piece comes from Ausserberg. From there fluorites with such forms were described. The color varies of colorless to blue green. See http://www.mindat.org/loc-107868.html.

Manfred

8th Mar 2006 08:17 UTCManfred Kampf Expert

sorry, the right adress is http://www.mindat.org/loc-107862.html.

Manfred

8th Mar 2006 20:41 UTCChrisH.

Hello Manfred!

Do you know how the ones from AuÃŸerberg look like?

Would it help if I make more pictures of the specimen (like bottom side, near view)?

Regards

ChrisH.

8th Mar 2006 23:53 UTCManfred Kampf Expert

Hi Chris,

Actually it is not necessary that you make further photos. My opinion your fluorites only can come from this region (Baltschieder Valley) . It is a narrow, mesozoic bassin with limes and dolomites. My knowledge's after, look fluorites of other localities in Wallis different.

Manfred

13th Mar 2006 21:31 UTCChrisH.

Hello

I did take some more pictures

www.fluorit-sammlung.de/Schweiz/Schweiz-1.JPG

www.fluorit-sammlung.de/Schweiz/Schweiz-2.jpg

www.fluorit-sammlung.de/Schweiz/Schweiz-3.JPG

www.fluorit-sammlung.de/Schweiz/Schweiz-4.jpg

www.fluorit-sammlung.de/Schweiz/Schweiz-5.JPG

www.fluorit-sammlung.de/Schweiz/Schweiz-6.JPG

Chris

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