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GeneralCrystals rattling around inside crystals

26th Jan 2021 15:48 UTCRoger Curry

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Hi All,
Just wondering if anyone has any crystal specimens, with an internal gaseous void, containing another loose crystal? As an example, here's a real oddity, a unique creation of nature, the Matryoshka diamond (after Russian dolls).

Above, Matryoshka diamond X-ray microtomograph. Photo credit: ALROSA   

The “diamond within a diamond” is > 800 million years old and was found in Oct. 2019 at an open-pit mine 200 miles north of Nyurba, Russia. 0.62 carat (0.124 grams), 4.8 x 4.9 x 2.8 mm. Internal crystal 1.9 × 2.1 × 0.6 mm, weighing 4mg.

Here's a video of the internal crystal rattling around in its carbon cage -


I'd be interested to see other examples, perhaps of more mundane minerals....
Regards,
Rog
  

26th Jan 2021 16:02 UTCBob Harman

Somewhat related is that in Indiana geodes, loose crystals in the geode cavity are EXTREMELY common. These literally can be found everywhere the geodes occur. The loose crystals are almost always small groups of quartz crystals. 
You can even create your own by giving unopened geodes a sharp tap. The geode won't break but it will loosen up the inside crystals creating the "rattle rock".

Native Americans gave them to their young children to play with. They are called "rattle rocks".  Most times these geodes are not otherwise collectible examples.
I have several unphotographed examples in my reference collection.          BOB

26th Jan 2021 16:30 UTCRoger Curry

Very nice to find floaters in cavities in rock Bob, but my interest here is rather a crystal inside a void in another crystal.
Rog

26th Jan 2021 17:55 UTCPaul Brandes 🌟 Manager

Sort of like an enhydro in a crystal, but a mineral grain/crystal in the void instead of liquid?

26th Jan 2021 18:13 UTCKyle Beucke 🌟

Happens with halides and sulfides in fluid inclusions in quartz, I believe.  

Kyle

26th Jan 2021 18:17 UTCRoger Curry

Aye, that's what I mean Paul. A void, perhaps a "negative crystal" where the liquid phase has long gone. The diamond example has two "vents" connecting to the outside.
Rog

11th Jul 2021 08:34 UTCTim Saunderson

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Hi Roger, here's a pic of a cavity in a quartz crystal with loose pyrite crystals in fluid. There is a gas bubble in the cavity too and many of the pyrite crystals adhere to the bubble through surface tension. Invert the specimen and some of the pyrite crystals tumble slowly through the liquid to the bottom of the cavity. Hard to photograph because many of the visible pyrite crystals are embedded in the quartz just under the surface (not in cavities).
Not quite "rattling around'' but the closest thing I've got.

Tim

11th Jul 2021 10:52 UTCRoger Curry

Nice one Tim!
the interaction of the pyrite crystals with the surface tension of the bubble sounds interesting enough to forgive the lack of rattle!
Cheers,
Rog

11th Jul 2021 19:44 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager

Amazing! From where is the specimen?

12th Jul 2021 00:18 UTCAlfredo Petrov Manager

I have a herkimer-typè quartz crystal from Bolivia that has tiny pyrite crystals in a void. When you tilt the crystal, the pyrites move like sand in a sandclock. I assume the cavity was filled with fluid and then dried out through some microscopic crack.

12th Jul 2021 03:35 UTCHerwig Pelckmans

Uwe Kolitsch Manager  ✉️

Amazing! From where is the specimen?
 Yes, we would love to know, please!

Cheers, Herwig

12th Jul 2021 07:41 UTCTim Saunderson

Sorry, I should have given locality.
It is from Tui Mine here in New Zealand.

12th Jul 2021 08:24 UTCHerwig Pelckmans

Hi Tim,
No worries, "nothing is broken"!  :-)

Tim, considering the mineralogical importance of this specimen: please submit the photo you added to this thread as a regular Mindat photo, and link it with the locality.
Then add the full description (you gave here) to the photo caption.
That way all members can find the photo if they do a search for it.
Thank you.
Cheers, Herwig

12th Jul 2021 11:51 UTCTim Saunderson

Done!
 
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