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GeneralSal Ammoniac? La Palma.

18th Dec 2021 21:50 UTCRoger Curry

Hi All,
Just seen this video of the sulphur deposits on La Palma -
https://youtu.be/l97UMlB4DZ8
White deposits on La Palma....... Sal Ammoniac?
Regards,
Rog

18th Dec 2021 22:19 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

This is rather usual halite.
 

18th Dec 2021 22:51 UTCRoger Curry

Hi Pavel,
Please tell me more about your identification,
Cheers,
Rog

19th Dec 2021 00:42 UTCPavel Kartashov Manager

How do you think, what is source of NH3 in volcanic gases?  I worked on fumaroles personally. The main halide on fumaroles is halite.
It seems to me, that you confusing real volcanic fumaroles with fumaroles of burning brown coals and their dumps.
Salmoniac is abundant only on La Fossa. But do you know some other similar place?

19th Dec 2021 03:49 UTCDoug Daniels

My copy of Dana's System gives volcanic fumaroles as a "usual" occurrence, listing 7 specific volcanoes (but suggesting many more).  He also suggests that the "mineral is found especially where the lava has flowed over soil and vegetation", the presumed source of the ammonia.  This is a good explanation for a new flow over "virgin" ground, but what of flows over many older flows?   And, what of fumaroles on or very near the volcano itself (of which many mentioned by Dana are a bit old...)? (And yes, he also mentions burning coal deposits, as well as guano deposits.)

19th Dec 2021 09:44 UTCFrank Mersch

Hi there, 

let us wait a little bit. Tuesday are heavy rains expected. Ammonia salts or Hallite will be solved, Sulfur will stay. 

I am pretty sure - there will be a lot of publications about that eruption in the next months.

Frank

19th Dec 2021 10:43 UTCRoger Curry

Hi Pavel,

Excellent information from you, thank you. I myself have only minimal experience of volcanoes, mostly at the Italian ones. I spent a month at the La Fossa crater, and was fascinated by the sal ammoniac, getting some good pictures of its crystallisation. I hadn’t realised that it only occurs there and that other volcanoes don’t produce it in quantity. Which is why I posted the question. I bow down to your certainty of identification.

Cheers

Roger

 

19th Dec 2021 10:32 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

The following paper - while not on the Canary Islands does provide some interesting insights into fumarolic minerals and the variety of possibilities:

Balić-Žunić, T.,  Garavelli, A., Jakobsson, S.P., Jonasson, K., Katerinopoulos, A., Kyriakopoulos, K., Acquafredda, P. (2016) Fumarolic Minerals: An Overview of Active European Volcanoes. In Updates in Volcanology - From Volcano Modelling to Volcano Geology.   

19th Dec 2021 10:59 UTCRoger Curry

Nice Article Keith!
I note that figure 5 is a photo of a large hunk of Sal ammoniac from Etna, so It’s not just Vulcano’s La Fossa which produces it. Whilst on Etna, I didn’t personally attempt the removal of any sublimates for examination, as it was a bit dodgy at the time, to say the least.
Cheers,
Rog
 
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