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Identity HelpWhiteburn, Nova Scotia, Canada

10th Aug 2022 23:44 UTCJames Alexander Cormier-Chisholm

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Hi, I am trying to identify a mineral that looks like gold, and a second mineral that either has blue or white hexagonal crystals underneath a CCD microscope.  Fire assay and XRF have shown it isn't gold, however, this metallic mineral is not affected by aqua regia solution over a 10 to 30 hour period of time, when JST 22 karat gold tester solution is placed on the sample.  Nor is the hexagonal crystal that is associated with this golden metallic material.  Additionally, the mineral is found on slate and  metasiltstones in the Halifax Formation, which normally contains gold, but this is assayed as not being gold.  Note that I applied a stannous chloride test on the sample, which showed a positive response for platinum groups (...this is an area with no barite deposits, or obvious copper minerals which can interfer with a stannous chloride test.... the stannous chloride test is a field test, so take that with a grain of salt), and has had a Professor in Geology who specializes in geology stating it is not platinum when he examined it underneath a scanning electron microscope.  If you could please contact me at james_chisholm@hotmail.com, if you think you can help with this puzzling but beautiful looking golden colored mineral, I would love the help identifying this puzzle stunning mineral(s).  Willing to send some samples your way for testing as well.    


Questions Answered
Can it scratch glass? : Yes
Can you scratch it with your fingernail? : No
Is it light/heavy for the size? : Heavy

10th Aug 2022 23:53 UTCKyle Beucke 🌟

A clear photo of the golden mineral would help.

Golden: Does it smell like rotten eggs when you drop hydrochloric acid on it? What did the XRF show? 

For both: Hardness, streak?

Kyle

11th Aug 2022 23:33 UTCJames Alexander Cormier-Chisholm

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Hi Kyle, there is no H2S type smell (rotten eggs) smell when hydrochloric acid is put on these samples. I've attached the golden looking mineral on slate image, that is resistant to aqua regia soluton from JSP, and the platinum solution from JSP.  As one can see, there are crystals within this matrix of golden material, some of which are covered by the golden material, but we also have cases where a blue, or white crystal, hexagonal in habit, is seen, where an area has been left relatively clean of the golden material. 

Streak = golden.  
 We have tried to scatch some of the crystals with a high carbon knife, which has hurt the knife, but not hurt the crystals at all that were found in a quartzite matrix. 

In the case of slates, I am able to scrap off the crystals onto a scratch pad, as the matrix material (slate) is so soft underneath the crystals.

I've attached what the local university provided for XRF analysis below. As we can see, gold isn't really showing up much with this XRF analysis (it is minor gold).  

Sorry, the local university didn't provide the units of XRF output, but presumably is is in ppm.  Fe is high as the slates are coated with iron hydroxides from acid rock drainage from other, base  metal crystals (arsenopyrite, pyrite, etc.) that can be seen as oxidized cast holes in the rock, where these metallic crystals have long ago been oxidized.  These long ago oxidative processes don't seem to have impacted these particular crystals at all.

The XRF shows the following (JJC-2, etc. is the sample names):
JJC-2

Au          0.197

Fe           15624

Cu           5.264

Pb           1.707

 JJC-3

Au          0.356

Fe           7336

Cu           1.0

Pb           2.250

 

JJC-4

Au          0.063

Fe           6687

Cu           0.793

Pb           1.554

 

11th Aug 2022 23:41 UTCRyan (Ryan Westenhaver)

beats the poop out of me ? lol
 

12th Aug 2022 00:44 UTCDavid K. Joyce Expert

Tests don’t seem to add up! Start over. 

12th Aug 2022 01:43 UTCKyle Beucke 🌟

These could be peak heights rather than a concentration. In addition, they may not have reported sulfur and only the metallic elements. Therefore, it could be pyrite.

But that is all speculation. You should confirm with the analyst what happened, or at least what is being measured here.

Kyle

16th Aug 2022 01:58 UTCJames Alexander Cormier-Chisholm

Hi,

The SEM analysis reveals the matrix is "golden mica."  However, the crystals aren't explained yet by the academic, or anyone.  Apparently mica survives aqua regia quite well, according to the academic.  
 
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