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GeneralThe end of mineralogy and petrology at NMW Cardiff has now been confirmed

15th Mar 2024 17:53 UTCRoy Starkey 🌟 Manager

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Photo above: A special display of some wonderful specimens from the National Museum of Wales collection put on for the Russell Society Annual Meeting in 2004 by Tom Cotterell.

Further to my original post (and its accompanying extensive discussion thread) - see
https://www.mindat.org/mesg-651797.html I thought it appropriate to make a separate new post to confirm the sad news that none of the mineralogy or petrology posts at NMW Cardiff are to be retained. This means that the mineral collection will be come an 'orphan' collection.

Thank you to everyone who took the trouble to send letters or emails arguing for the retention of at least a single mineralogy curation post. Ironically NMW Cardiff is the host venue for the forthcoming international Mineralogy and Museums Conference in August see https://mm-10.org/

The following series of questions and (very bland) responses from the Museum has reached me via the Geological Curators' Group: 

What will happen in the future if new minerals are found in Wales? Will they need to go to a Museum in England as we will no longer have curators to look after them in Wales?

We are putting plans in place to ensure that all our geology collections continue to be preserved and cared for to the highest professional standards. From April, enquiries about our collections will be directed to Conservation.

What is the evidence on which the closure of the Mineralogy and Petrology Department is based and how does it fit into our Strategy?

Due to the cut to our budget, we have had to take the difficult decision to close the geology section in its current format. This will regrettably result in the reduction of roles. This saving will enable us to redeploy resources to maintain and strengthen the Botany and Zoology sections.

[The following three questions were answered with one response]

Who will audit and curate the rocks and minerals displayed at Big Pit and Swansea, and the geology collections that are on loan to these sites for Learning purposes?

Who will provide support for Learning, Big Pit, Amgueddfa Lechi and the Waterfront Museum on topics relating to rocks and minerals (such as volcanoes, formation of coal, slate and industrial minerals in Wales) going forward?

Who can we refer the public to for enquiries about our rock and mineral collections? Or Welsh gold, minerals or rocks? Will the public still be able to access these collections?

We are putting plans in place to ensure that all our geology collections continue to be preserved and cared for to the highest professional standards across all of our sites. Enquiries about our collections will be directed to Conservation and we hope to continue to provide the public with access to the collections through our programme wherever possible.

Support for sites and the Learning department on rocks and minerals will be evaluated over time.

How can we ensure the long-term survival of the popular Evolution of Wales and Natural World displays without expert curatorial input to these displays?

We are retaining two palaeontology posts to support continued care and conservation of our precious collection of Welsh fossils and help safeguard the future of our prized natural sciences galleries.


What the real future prospects for the mineralogy collection are we shall only discover over time, but clearly this is not good news at all. The excellent associated Mineralogy of Wales website see https://museum.wales/mineralogy-of-wales/database/  must now also be viewed as under threat with no in-house expertise to maintain it.

Finally, I would like to say a big personal 'thank you' to Jana Horak, Tom Cotterell and Andrew Haycock for their friendship and help on many projects over the years and to wish each of them all the best for the future.

Roy




15th Mar 2024 20:05 UTCTom Cotterell

Wow, that image is a blast from the past...

Roy, thank you for your amazing support in trying to rescue something mineralogical for Wales. The level of response to the museum management and Welsh Government has been phenomenal and has been noted, but not responded to. We are all enormously grateful to each and everyone who tried to make a difference and for the behind the scenes support too. Individually, we will each move on and take our skills and knowledge to where they are valued. Rightly, or wrongly, I made my peace instantly and knew that I couldn't turn back, but there was still hope that at least one mineralogical post might be salvaged, but as we now know that was not to be. At least we have the memories.

Thank you everyone.

16th Mar 2024 09:28 UTCTimothy Greenland

Tom, I'm so sorry about all this. I keep very fond memories of mt trip to your labs and your help with some of my minerals. Thank you and your colleagues most sincerely.
I cannot express my disappointment with this decision - which stems from a reluctance to attribute public funds to educational and research purposes. Entertainment rather than knowledge !!!
The age or enlightenment seems to be past.

My very best wishes for your future

Tim

16th Mar 2024 09:02 UTCStephen Moreton Expert

Sad news indeed.  And I hope the team at NMW are able to swiftly find new jobs.  Given the parlous state of the U.K. after 14 years of incompetent governance, and the economic damage of that ludicrous right-wing populist folly Brexit, I am not optimistic about the future.  We will likely be rid of this wretched bunch of self-serving rich toffs and right-wing ideologues come the next election, but it will take a generation to repair the damage they have done.  Meantime what will happen to the Scottish, English and Northern Irish museums?  Will they lose staff too?

16th Mar 2024 11:18 UTCPaul De Bondt Manager

If I may give you some advice, write to the King!
And he used to be the " Prince of Wales ".
He can maybe turn it back.

Keep safe

16th Mar 2024 12:23 UTCIan Jones Expert

Terrible news but not unexpected given what was said previously.

My thanks to Jana, Tom and Andrew for all your help and my best wishes for the future.

An important collection will now wither and die. From a personal prospective I was considering donating my Welsh collection to the NMW at some point in the future. That certainly won't happen now. Even if the collection is resurrected at some point, how can they ever be trusted after this.  


17th Mar 2024 06:25 UTCJohn Mason Expert

Ian - my thoughts entirely WRT my collection too. This business has turned a lot of safe assumptions on their heads.

17th Mar 2024 00:04 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager

Not just a Welsh tragedy or a UK tragedy but a world tragedy.
Let's hope other countries do not follow suit.

But wait, some already have. It's been happening for years. Minerals get less and less attention every year in museums around the world. 

The saddest part is that virtually all these collections have never been fully photographed and the information digitally stored. Imagine if the whole of the Welsh mineral collection was at least digitally photographed and available for everyone to see. At least then if something like this happens, the specimens we would remain a visual record for the future.

Unfortunately whatever the Welsh curators currently say, and what they have to date is vague and amounts to bureaucratic idiocy, the collection will now waste away and be lost for future generations. Not to mention removing all hope for private mineral collection donations to the museum. 





 
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