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Identity HelpWulfenite possible location required pls.
23rd Nov 2019 03:55 UTCGreg Dainty
23rd Nov 2019 04:11 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager
Looks Moroccoan to me
Cheers
23rd Nov 2019 07:59 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder
23rd Nov 2019 08:42 UTCJohn Sobolewski 🌟 Expert
23rd Nov 2019 08:44 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager
Given it's from an old Australian collection, there were a number of Aussie dealers that had Moroccoan Wulfenites back in the early 1980s (Touissit-Bou Beker district).
And yes, Mexico has produced similar.
23rd Nov 2019 13:27 UTCJohan Kjellman Expert
23rd Nov 2019 18:58 UTCFrancis X Dzubeck
By any chance do you have a date when the specimen entered the collection? Reason being, if it was in he 1980's, it would have been labeled "Putis IX Mine" or just "Touisst." They were first brought out by Victor Yount in 1982. Them an mass in the latter 1980's by Moroccan/European dealers. The date will tel the story. If it entered the collection latter in the 1990's -2000's it could be from Mexico at a locality called the "Mitchell Prospect in Mun. de Rayon, Sonora. Wulfenite similar to your specimen came into the Market at the Tucson Show during that time period.
Frank
23rd Nov 2019 23:50 UTCGreg Dainty
Yes I think Morocco is most likely the origin of the specimen. Thanks everybody for their help, particularly Franks detailed reply. Frank the origin of the specimen is almost certainly the very early 1980s, as the collection has been in storage since then. There were also a number of other early 1980s specimen in the collection. Including this greenish yellow anglesite, pictured.
I do remember that some Moroccan anglesites had been treated to give color, I was wondering if anybody could advise me if this may have been the case with the pictured specimen? Again thank you everybody for your replies, very appreciated.
24th Nov 2019 00:24 UTCJohan Kjellman Expert
And it is "Puit IX", i.e. pit/adit no. 9.
24th Nov 2019 14:03 UTCErik Vercammen Expert
24th Nov 2019 17:04 UTCFrancis X Dzubeck
The Anglesites of this type all come out at the same time as the Wulfenites and the yellow-green type were alwat=ys in a Galena matrix. The off matrix ones were lager perfect crystals. In actuality the treated ones were of a clear Amber color and tended to be larger crystals to make greater profit. I never did see a red Anglesite in the 1980's. Also, I agree with Erik. I tend to use the labeling language that was provided with the specimen. In the 1980's all Morocan martial had a locality label in French and as I said before, had only two localities - Putis IX or Touisst!
Frank
24th Nov 2019 17:33 UTCJohan Kjellman Expert
Wulfenites were most frequently quoted as comming from Zelidja or Bou Beker, whereas for anglesite the locality was usually stated Touissit.
This link provides data on the district and the sublocalities:
26th Nov 2019 14:46 UTCUwe Kolitsch Manager
> And it is "Puit IX", i.e. pit/adit no. 9.
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