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Identity HelpJust really want to know what this is?
26th Oct 2020 22:35 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
Here are more pictures https://imgur.com/gallery/yhl4WA3
26th Oct 2020 22:42 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
26th Oct 2020 22:44 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
29th Oct 2020 01:19 UTCHolger Hartmaier 🌟
I realize this came from an old collection with no data. However, one helpful test to make to help identify the green mineral is to place a drop of vinegar on it to see if there is any fizz reaction. If so, the mineral is probably calcite.
I'm going to take a stab at identification in the meantime- at first I thought this was a drill core sample, but it looks like it has a tapered shape, with one end having a larger diameter than the other. Also there are some irregularities on the surface that possibly point to this being a fossil, perhaps of a cephalopod. The rounded, smoothed end, if not artificially polished resembles the distal end of a cephalopod. The item itself lacks evidence of an actual "shell", so it could be a relict mold of the original fossil. See attached link for further details and description.
Cheers,
Holger
29th Oct 2020 02:47 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
Thank you for your help. So I tried out the vinegar on the green bit and there was no reaction. Also I have taken the measurements of the top and bottom circumference and they are pretty spot on the same, so when you said core sample that really always seemed how it looked to me. Granted looking like one thing or the other to me really means nothing because I have zero experience identifying anything.
I took a video for better viewing.
29th Oct 2020 02:19 UTCDean Allum Expert
Hello Elizabeth,
It would help our guess if you inform us of which part of the world this is from.
It occurs to me that this might be an assay ingot. These are produced by mining assay offices to determine the richness of the ore being mined.
Perhaps our local assayer Don Saathoff will see this and comment.
29th Oct 2020 07:37 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
29th Oct 2020 14:44 UTCHolger Hartmaier 🌟
Thanks for the video. It provides a better view. I would suggest testing the hardness next. Use the point of a steel knife or pin and try scratching the green mineral in a small obscure area (so you don't noticeably damage it) as well as the brown host rock. I noticed on the video that the smooth, rounded end seems to be a distinct darker brown layer. Test that as well.
With regards to the vinegar test, sometimes the reaction is subdued, so you could try repeating it using pickling vinegar which is more concentrated. The usual test is with dilute hydrochloric acid, but if it scratches with the knife and you see a reaction, it is likely calcite. Check the host rock for a reaction as well.
29th Oct 2020 19:53 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
29th Oct 2020 20:05 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
29th Oct 2020 15:04 UTCDon Saathoff Expert
There is nothing in my fire assay experience that would produce such an item - sorry! It reminds me of material from the inside of a sump pipe, possibly from a well pump? I have pulled drain-pipe (~3") completely lined with lime with an opening reduced to ~1/2". In a sump, the water has no place to go so the minerals (whatever happens to be in the water) can settle & crystallize. Just a thought....
Don
29th Oct 2020 19:54 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
29th Oct 2020 20:08 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
29th Oct 2020 17:19 UTCKyle Beucke 🌟
Kyle
29th Oct 2020 21:50 UTCIan Nicastro
30th Oct 2020 03:11 UTCHolger Hartmaier 🌟
Since the materials are softer than your steel blade we can rule out quartz/chalcedony as the greenish mineral. The lack of a fizzing reaction with vinegar would rule out calcite and most other carbonates bit it would still be worth confirming that with a stronger vinegar or dilute hydrochloric acid (muriatic acid). Try the vinegar/acid on an area after you've scratched it to test the powdered material. If it is a "pipe blockage" type material, I would expect it to react with vinegar. If there is still no reaction, then it becomes a much more difficult exercise for identification via this forum. You may be best off to take it to a local rock club and seek out someone knowledgeable who can assess it first-hand.
30th Oct 2020 20:39 UTCElizabeth Waedemon
31st Oct 2020 01:47 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager
I think that you will find that it is simply an accumulation of calcium carbonate scale (CaCo3) from a water pipe. Perhaps a plumber cleaned out one of your grandfather's blocked water pipes, or perhaps he was a plumber.
It is a bit unusual to see a completely blocked and crystallised pipe but they occur frequently enough.
The fact that it is a bit chalky and easy to scratch also puts it in the frame as well.
If you search on-line for things like blocked pipes/hard water/calcium build up/ + photos etc., you will find similar looking items.
I'm sure it is not a fossil, drill core, or natural occurrence.
31st Oct 2020 02:12 UTCKyle Beucke 🌟
Kyle
31st Oct 2020 03:16 UTCKeith Compton 🌟 Manager
Kyle
As I said you can simply search on-line for things like blocked pipes/hard water/calcium build up/ + photos ... etc., you will find similar looking items.
31st Oct 2020 03:25 UTCBernadette G
31st Oct 2020 03:28 UTCBernadette G
31st Oct 2020 16:20 UTCKyle Beucke 🌟
Maybe something like this could form in a sump, but to me this is still a mystery. A cut across the middle might reveal more of the texture.
Could a cored section of rock have been left in a drill? Rusting of the drill could have left the rust (if that is what it is). Would not explain the polished end.
Kyle
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