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D Mike Reinke May 24, 2012 04:42PM
I'd be amazed if they did. If they wanted the public to come for in, for a fee, they'd surely advertise, and that news would spread through mindat like wildfire.
Bob Hembree May 24, 2012 05:09PM
No, they are a commercial mining operation and have to deal with MSHA (mine health and saftey Admin, US government) and have to worry about the liability involved. Even if they would let you you would have to go through 40 hours of safety training to be able to.
Edward Scherf June 18, 2012 06:59PM
Does anyone have the email address for the elmwood mine. Or even the phone number. I would like see if by some small change they would allow the public in to pick any wear on the site..
Joe Mulvey July 07, 2012 01:50AM
You may want to start formal corrspondence at the top by viewing the contact options on their website:

Good luck!
Joe Mulvey July 07, 2012 01:58AM
For further information contact:

Anthony Simms
Group Manager
Investor Relations
T: +41 44 745 8157
M: +41 79 722 2152

Kate Dinon
Group Manager
Corporate Communications
T: +41 44 745 8154
M: +41 79 722 84 66

Geert Lambrechts
Corporate Communications
T: +32 14 449 646
M: +32 473 637 892
Bart Cannon July 07, 2012 01:01PM
As long as this fracas is well underway, I'll add my annoying insight which does not seem to have been mentioned yet.

Al Gore Sr. and noted environmentalist Al Gore Jr. have earned $570,000 on the royalties from the sale of lead, zinc and cadmium from the portion of the Elmwood Complex underneath the Gore farm. Quite a bit of that figure is in 1970s dollars.

Perhaps Al junior could get the Sierra Club to close the Gore portion of the mine in order to preserve and recover some of our national natural mineral heritage, I have a list of nominations for who the collectors might be. I'm not on the list.

There are hundreds of links to the Gore zinc leases. Seems they didn't maintain their lease after the mines closed, but may be actively working on re-activating that lease.

EVander October 31, 2012 06:45AM
I know many miners from the current excavation and I personally know how much is being destroyed to this day. There are a few vaults held for the personal value of a few wealthy people and the rest is destroyed to help the value of current specimen. There will be specimen destroyed that should have been displayed in the finest collections in the world and its a travesty. As a private collector I am saving as many as I can. Elmwood is a messed up as it always has been. By the way Real Elmwood....Your a joke and making excuses for a very few of the people making the decisions. It makes me thing your one of the few making decisions about your own investments. Pathetic!! For the rest of you I actually know what is happening in this mine and its worse than you think!

Nelse Miller October 31, 2012 07:06PM
This strikes me as the moral, if not legal, equivalent to shooting snowy owls in order to expidite logging of an old growth forest. Considering the mining practices in other, less "enlightened", parts of the world, we should consider ourselves lucky that mineral specimens are all that are being openly destroyed in the drive for maximum immediate profit.
Rock Currier December 07, 2012 09:40PM
Have you ever been underground in Elmwood and collected specimens there?

Rock Currier
Crystals not pistols.
R White January 01, 2015 05:56PM
Does anyone have a more recent update?
pam March 10, 2015 02:43AM
Pam, this is not a place for free advertising.
Rock Currier
one of the managers

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/10/2015 08:13AM by Rock Currier.
Jonelle DeFelice December 04, 2015 09:18PM
I finally looked up ELMWOOD MINE here on the forum, as one of my two only real nifty dealer-purchased mineral specimens is from there. It is a nice blue fluorite example that was purchased on Ebay.

I didn't expect to find out the location is/was a commercially operated raw-material mine! I thought it would be a privately owned area mined by collectors.

Can anyone give me a short (or long, which is fine with me) history of this area? When did mining originally start, and was it always run by commercial mining companies?

Bob Harman December 04, 2015 09:52PM
First of all I suggest looking this up online as you will find a wealth of info there on all aspects of your question.

Discovered in about 1969, the mining complex was mined for ZINC. New Jersey zinc company was the mining company and active mining started in about the early to mid 1970's. Mining was stopped about 15 years ago, only to be reopened on a limited basis about 2010. Currently very low zinc ore prices (and, for that matter, many commodity prices) have again forced mining to a halt (as I understand it) in the mining complex. Several mines are in the complex around the towns of Carthage, Elmwood and Cumberland Tennessee. The mine names include the Elmwood mine.

One fun fact is that the land above part of the mines was owned by Vice President Al Gore's family. When mining was to commence, the secret service supposedly came into the mines and checked out the security so no attempt could be made to put the vice president's life in danger thru coming up under his house. Not sure if this is true or urban legend.

When mining commenced, immediately there were very hi quality mineral specimens found. These included great fluorites, sphalerite (the zinc ore), barites and most of all large fabulous orange calcites. All manner of combinations occurred. Pictures of all these mineral specimens can be seen online, in museums, and many private collections etc. The mine management, enlightened and to their credit, decided to get a specimen contract with several professional collectors. This is why so many great examples quickly came out and onto the collector market.
Prices have climbed to astronomical levels for the very best specimens. All these specimen prices are VERY dependent on crystal color, condition, and overall specimen aesthetics. Even the slightest ding or chipped termination on a calcite crystal can reduce the example price by several magnitudes of price.

Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/04/2015 10:00PM by Bob Harman.
Jonelle DeFelice December 04, 2015 11:28PM
Great summary, Bob! The comment regarding the specimen quality vs. price does seem to effect the fluorite examples listed weekly by the seller I bought from. I am not experienced enough to catch most of the differences, though.
Edward Bayley February 13, 2017 09:57PM
Figured I'd revive this discussion for some updates. There is still a lot of material going around in Tucson this year, but no stories of anything being new. I remembered this article and Nyrstar's announcement of re-opening but am not aware of whether ore is being hoisted or not.

Does anyone know if the mines are still in idle status?

Ed Bayley
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