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Identity HelpIs this Linarite?

17th Aug 2010 01:47 UTCMonica Ceretti

Hi all,

I received the specimen pictured below from a friend who identified it as Linarite from Bingham, New Mexico. Since most of the Linarite I've seen in photos is a richer/more vivid blue than my specimen I'm hoping to verify the ID.

The color of this specimen is best captured in Photo 3. In Photo 1 the color is a more vivid and saturated blue than it is in the actual specimen. This specimen is also quite sparkly under direct light (which I wasn't able to capture in my photos), so I'm wondering if the druse (?) might be muting the color.

Any help here would be much appreciated.

Monica

17th Aug 2010 02:14 UTCJim Bean 🌟

Kinoite?

17th Aug 2010 03:14 UTCStephanie Martin

Does look like kinoite.

17th Aug 2010 03:34 UTCRobert Meyer Manager

I agree, this appears to be Kinoite on the typical skarn rock from the Christmas Mine.

Bob

17th Aug 2010 04:16 UTCDarren Court

Gotta agree, the matrix just is not right for Bingham, but it certainly is for Christmas Mine Kinoite - neat piece!

17th Aug 2010 05:08 UTCMonica Ceretti

Thank you all for taking the time to respond and for putting me on the right track. I will now research Kinoite and the Christmas Mine. Thanks again.

Monica

17th Aug 2010 15:21 UTCJason Evans

Kinoite is quite a rarity, and if thats what you have its a nice specimen!

17th Aug 2010 15:26 UTCSergey Sayamov

You also might want to search the kinoite surface in order to find colorless sparkling crystals - these might be apophyllite.

17th Aug 2010 17:13 UTCPeter Hargis

It does look like Kinoite, but how sure is your friend that it's from Bingham? If it is certainly from Bingham, it's not Kinoite... maybe Celadonite or Spangolite. You mentioned that the photos don't show the true colors... is there any green to the blue? That might suggest Spangolite. Of course, this is all assuming it is from Bingham.

17th Aug 2010 18:30 UTCJolyon Ralph Founder

I think it's pretty conclusive that it's Kinoite. it's one of those things that isn't really easy to mistake.

17th Aug 2010 19:45 UTCTony L. Potucek Expert

And the kinoite specimen is definitely from the Christmas mine near Winkleman and Hayden, Arizona.

17th Aug 2010 21:34 UTCJason Evans

what is the pale green stuff that occurs with Kinoite from christmas mine, Ive noticed it on my specimen, there are some crusty patches and also a few tiny balls of the green stuff, ive seen it on other photos as well but it nevr says what it is, only kinoite and apophyllite.

my guess is some other copper minerall like malachite or chrysocolla?

17th Aug 2010 22:29 UTCTony L. Potucek Expert

It could be, but if you are referring to the green material shown in the above photos, Jason, those are associated skarn minerals like epidote. Christmas mine kinoite almost always is with apophyllite and can also be with native copper and native silver. Kinoite occurs in the skarn portion of the Christmas deposit. I hope that helps.

tlp

17th Aug 2010 23:27 UTCRicardo Pimentel Expert

Hello,

Tiny green crystals in balls aggregate with kinoite and apophyllite could be dioptase.

Regards

18th Aug 2010 00:22 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

dioptase is in prismatic green xls, the pale green balls are likely gilalite

18th Aug 2010 00:29 UTCJason Evans

Aha, yeah pale green balls is more acurate to what i have on my specimen, i was going to add a pic but youve saved me the effort, thanks, and sorry for hijacking the original thread to ask my own question, still, it was related to the original question at least!

18th Aug 2010 00:30 UTCChuck Adan

Gilalite is often associated with kinoite. Take a look at the pictures: http://www.mindat.org/gallery.php?min=1691

18th Aug 2010 00:46 UTCJason Evans

Ive just thought im sure i did a post some time ago asking fior help identifying the mineral, i did a serch on my control panel of any toopics containing thr word kinoite but nothing came up, other than the posts ive made in this thread, i thought it would bring up any threasd ive posted in or strted mentioning kinoite but it didnt, so ive juxt checked all the thread ive subscribed to and suprise suprise i see one with the tilte gilalite! it seems my first guess may have been correct after all, but i never got any confoirmation, infact nobody replied at all whicn quite supprised me as ussualy at least someone will try to help, anyway at least its identified now, well not conformed but a good possibility

heres a link to my thread with a pic

http://www.mindat.org/forum.php?read,11,133915,133915#msg-133915

18th Aug 2010 01:06 UTCJeff Weissman Expert

Jason

that does not look like gilalite, gilalite would not be smooth and shiny - perhaps you have chrysocolla, or chalcedony, certainly not dioptase.

Jeff

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