Ardennite-(As)
A valid IMA mineral species - grandfathered
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About Ardennite-(As)
Formula:
Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
Colour:
Yellow to Brown
Lustre:
Sub-Adamantine
Hardness:
6 - 7
Specific Gravity:
3.69 - 3.75
Crystal System:
Orthorhombic
Member of:
Name:
For the type locality in the Ardennes Mountains, Belgium. The original name was simply ardennite, without the suffix. The approval of ardennite-(V) led the IMA renaming this species in 2007 with the addition of the suffix.
Unique Identifiers
Mindat ID:
322
Long-form identifier:
mindat:1:1:322:5
GUID
(UUID V4):
(UUID V4):
e0604f98-7ebf-4a04-a584-f879b83a2c5a
IMA Classification of Ardennite-(As)
Approved, 'Grandfathered' (first described prior to 1959)
IMA status notes:
Renamed by the IMA
First published:
1872
Approval history:
Renamed from ardennite to ardennite-(As) in 2007.
Classification of Ardennite-(As)
9.BJ.40
9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
B : Sorosilicates
J : Sorosilicates with Si3O10, Si4O11, etc. anions; cations in octahedral [6] and greater coordination
9 : SILICATES (Germanates)
B : Sorosilicates
J : Sorosilicates with Si3O10, Si4O11, etc. anions; cations in octahedral [6] and greater coordination
58.3.1.1
58 : SOROSILICATES Insular, Mixed, Single, and Larger Tetrahedral Groups
3 : Insular, Mixed, Single, and Larger Tetrahedral Groups with insular single and triple groups (n=1, 3)
58 : SOROSILICATES Insular, Mixed, Single, and Larger Tetrahedral Groups
3 : Insular, Mixed, Single, and Larger Tetrahedral Groups with insular single and triple groups (n=1, 3)
17.7.4
17 : Silicates Containing other Anions
7 : Silicates with vanadate, arsenate or antimonate
17 : Silicates Containing other Anions
7 : Silicates with vanadate, arsenate or antimonate
Mineral Symbols
As of 2021 there are now IMAâCNMNC approved mineral symbols (abbreviations) for each mineral species, useful for tables and diagrams.
Symbol | Source | Reference |
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Ard-As | IMAâCNMNC | Warr, L.N. (2021). IMAâCNMNC approved mineral symbols. Mineralogical Magazine, 85(3), 291-320. doi:10.1180/mgm.2021.43 |
Physical Properties of Ardennite-(As)
Sub-Adamantine
Transparency:
Opaque
Colour:
Yellow to Brown
Hardness:
6 - 7 on Mohs scale
Tenacity:
Brittle
Cleavage:
Perfect
Perfect on {010}, distinct on {110}
Perfect on {010}, distinct on {110}
Parting:
On {001}
Fracture:
Irregular/Uneven, Sub-Conchoidal
Density:
3.69 - 3.75 g/cm3 (Measured) 3.74 g/cm3 (Calculated)
Optical Data of Ardennite-(As)
Type:
Biaxial (+)
RI values:
nα = 1.759 nβ = 1.740 - 1.780 nγ = 1.774
2V:
Measured: 30°
Birefringence:
Older literature reports 0.15-0.20; more recent observations give values ranging from 0.015(1) to 0.0181(2).
Max Birefringence:
δ = 0.015
Image shows birefringence interference colour range (at 30µm thickness)
and does not take into account mineral colouration.
and does not take into account mineral colouration.
Surface Relief:
High
Dispersion:
strong (but contradictory data are reported; see comments below)
Pleochroism:
Strong
Comments:
X= dark brownish yellow
Y= golden yellow
X= pale yellow
However, more recent observations indicate only weak pleochroism, in medium brownish-yellow (see comments below).
Y= golden yellow
X= pale yellow
However, more recent observations indicate only weak pleochroism, in medium brownish-yellow (see comments below).
Comments:
The reported older literature optical data for ardennite-(As) differ markedly from more recent observations (see [https://www.rockptx.com/fkm-351-to-fkm-375/#FKM-372]), and appear to be at least partially incorrect. The missing data and apparent inconsistencies are described in more detail here.
In addition to the discrepancy in reported birefringence noted above, older literature reports 2Vz° = 0-70°; more recent observations more specifically give 2Vz° = 30(5)° for material from Salmchâteau, although Bermanec et al., 2021 report 2Vx° = 49(1)° for material from NeŞilovo (hence the latter material would be B(-)).
Values for nι and nγ are not reported from the older literature, and so are estimated here for material from Salmchâteau sample FKM-372 from the observed δ and 2V°. The nι and nβ values for NeŞilovo material reported by Bermanec et al., 2021 are implausibly low (nι = 1.537(2) and nβ = 1.579(1)) and appear to be erroneous (and also markedly differ from the analogous values obtained by Barresi et al., 2007 for an Italian example of the related mineral ardennite-(V).)
Dispersion appears variable, with older literature reporting "strong", and also Bermanec et al., 2021 reporting "strong" with v > r for the NeŞilovo material. But Barresi et al., 2007 do not observe any notable dispersion in their Italian ardennite-(V), and similarly, the FKM-372 Salmchâteau ardennite-(As) shows only at best very weak dispersion, and when discernible r > v.
In contrast to the older literature, all the recent work on both the As-dominant and V-dominant species note only weak pleochroism, in tones of yellow or brownish-yellow.
In addition to the discrepancy in reported birefringence noted above, older literature reports 2Vz° = 0-70°; more recent observations more specifically give 2Vz° = 30(5)° for material from Salmchâteau, although Bermanec et al., 2021 report 2Vx° = 49(1)° for material from NeŞilovo (hence the latter material would be B(-)).
Values for nι and nγ are not reported from the older literature, and so are estimated here for material from Salmchâteau sample FKM-372 from the observed δ and 2V°. The nι and nβ values for NeŞilovo material reported by Bermanec et al., 2021 are implausibly low (nι = 1.537(2) and nβ = 1.579(1)) and appear to be erroneous (and also markedly differ from the analogous values obtained by Barresi et al., 2007 for an Italian example of the related mineral ardennite-(V).)
Dispersion appears variable, with older literature reporting "strong", and also Bermanec et al., 2021 reporting "strong" with v > r for the NeŞilovo material. But Barresi et al., 2007 do not observe any notable dispersion in their Italian ardennite-(V), and similarly, the FKM-372 Salmchâteau ardennite-(As) shows only at best very weak dispersion, and when discernible r > v.
In contrast to the older literature, all the recent work on both the As-dominant and V-dominant species note only weak pleochroism, in tones of yellow or brownish-yellow.
Chemistry of Ardennite-(As)
Mindat Formula:
Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6
Common Impurities:
Ti,Cu
Crystallography of Ardennite-(As)
Crystal System:
Orthorhombic
Class (H-M):
mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) - Dipyramidal
Cell Parameters:
a = 8.7126(8) Å, b = 18.5124(11) Å, c = 5.8108(8) Å
Ratio:
a:b:c = 0.471 : 1 : 0.314
Unit Cell V:
937.23 Ă
Âł (Calculated from Unit Cell)
Z:
2
Morphology:
Prismatic, radiating fibrous groups.
Comment:
Space Group: Pnmm
Crystallographic forms of Ardennite-(As)
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ID | Species | Reference | Link | Year | Locality | Pressure (GPa) | Temp (K) |
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0009340 | Ardennite-(As) | Donnay G, Allmann R (1968) Si3O10 groups in the crystal structure of ardennite Acta Crystallographica B24 845-855 | 1968 | 0 | 293 | ||
0019900 | Ardennite-(As) | Nagashima M, Armbruster T (2010) Ardennite, tiragalloite and medaite: structural control of (As5+,V5+,Si4+)O4 tetrahedra in silicates Mineralogical Magazine 74 55-71 | 2010 | Salm-Chateau, Ardennes, Belgium | 0 | 293 | |
0019901 | Ardennite-(As) | Nagashima M, Armbruster T (2010) Ardennite, tiragalloite and medaite: structural control of (As5+,V5+,Si4+)O4 tetrahedra in silicates Mineralogical Magazine 74 55-71 | 2010 | Vernetto mine, Val Lanzo, Torino, Piedmont, Italy | 0 | 293 |
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X-Ray Powder Diffraction
Powder Diffraction Data:
d-spacing | Intensity |
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2.574 Ă | (100) |
2.911 Ă | (70) |
4.21 Ă | (60) |
3.15 Ă | (60) |
2.871 Ă | (60) |
1.448 Ă | (60) |
3.76 Ă | (50) |
Geological Environment
Paragenetic Mode(s):
Paragenetic Mode | Earliest Age (Ga) |
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High-đ alteration and/or metamorphism | |
32 : Ba/Mn/Pb/Zn deposits, including metamorphic deposits |
Geological Setting:
Highly oxidized, Mn, Al metasediments.
Type Occurrence of Ardennite-(As)
Place of Conservation of Type Material:
Mineralogical Museum University of Wroclaw, Poland.
MusĂŠe de MinĂŠralogie, Ecole des Mines de Paris (originally as 'dewalquite').
MusĂŠe de MinĂŠralogie, Ecole des Mines de Paris (originally as 'dewalquite').
Geological Setting of Type Material:
Pegmatites and quartz veins in schist
Reference:
von Lasaulx, A. (1872) Ardennit, ein neues Mineral. Neues Jahrbuch fßr Mineralogie, Geologie und Paläontologie, 930-934.
Synonyms of Ardennite-(As)
Other Language Names for Ardennite-(As)
Russian:ĐŃдонниŃ-(As)
Simplified Chinese:ç ˇééĄçż
ç ˇé°çĄ éçż
ç ˇé°çĄ éçż
Spanish:Ardennita
Dewalquita
Dewalquita
Relationship of Ardennite-(As) to other Species
Member of:
Other Members of this group:
Alpeite | Ca4Mn3+2Al2(Mn3+Mg)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(V5+O4)(OH)6 | Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pmmn |
Ardennite-(Si) | ~Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(SiO4,AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6 | |
Ardennite-(V) | Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(VO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6 | Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pmmn |
Kannanite | Ca4Al4(AlMg)(VO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6 | Orth. mmm (2/m 2/m 2/m) : Pmmn |
Common Associates
Associated Minerals Based on Photo Data:
11 photos of Ardennite-(As) associated with Quartz | SiO2 |
2 photos of Ardennite-(As) associated with Sericite | KAl2(AlSi3O10)(OH)2 |
1 photo of Ardennite-(As) associated with Piemontite | (CaCa)(AlAlMn3+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH) |
1 photo of Ardennite-(As) associated with Manganiandrosite-(La) | (Mn2+La)(Mn3+AlMn2+)O[Si2O7][SiO4](OH) |
1 photo of Ardennite-(As) associated with Ardennite-(Si) | ~Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(SiO4,AsO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6 |
1 photo of Ardennite-(As) associated with Braunite | Mn2+Mn3+6(SiO4)O8 |
1 photo of Ardennite-(As) associated with Ardennite-(V) | Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(VO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6 |
Related Minerals - Strunz-mindat Grouping
9.BJ. | Arsenmedaite | Mn2+6 As5+Si5O18(OH) |
9.BJ.05 | Orientite | Ca8Mn3+10(SiO4)3(Si3O10)3(OH)10 ¡ 4H2O |
9.BJ.10 | Rosenhahnite | HCa3[Si3O9(OH)] |
9.BJ.15 | Trabzonite | Ca4(Si3O9)(OH)2 |
9.BJ.20 | ThalĂŠnite-(Y) | Y3Si3O10F |
9.BJ.25 | Tiragalloite | Mn2+4As5+Si3O12(OH) |
9.BJ.30 | Medaite | Mn2+6V5+Si5O18(OH) |
9.BJ.35 | Ruizite | Ca2Mn3+2[Si4O11(OH)2](OH)2 ¡ 2H2O |
9.BJ.35 | Taniajacoite | SrCaMn3+2Si4O11(OH)4 ¡ 2H2O |
9.BJ.35 | Strontioruizite | Sr2Mn3+2Si4O11(OH)4 ¡ 2H2O |
9.BJ.40 | Ardennite-(V) | Mn2+4Al4(AlMg)(VO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6 |
9.BJ.40 | Kannanite | Ca4Al4(AlMg)(VO4)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(OH)6 |
9.BJ.40 | Alpeite | Ca4Mn3+2Al2(Mn3+Mg)(SiO4)2(Si3O10)(V5+O4)(OH)6 |
9.BJ.45 | Kilchoanite | Ca6(SiO4)(Si3O10) |
9.BJ.50 | Kornerupine | Mg3Al6(Si,Al,B)5O21(OH) |
9.BJ.50 | Prismatine | (âť,Fe,Mg)(Mg,Al,Fe)5Al4Si2(Si,Al)2(B,Si,Al)(O,OH,F)22 |
9.BJ.55 | Zunyite | Al13Si5O20(OH,F)18Cl |
9.BJ.60 | Hubeite | Ca2Mn2+Fe3+Si4O12(OH) ¡ 2H2O |
9.BJ.65 | Cassagnaite | (Ca,Mn2+)4(Fe3+,Mn3+,Al)4(V3+,Mg,Al)2(Si3O10)(SiO4)2(OH,O)8 |
9.BJ.70 | Pavlovskyite | Ca8(SiO4)2(Si3O10) |
Other Information
Health Risks:
No information on health risks for this material has been entered into the database. You should always treat mineral specimens with care.
Internet Links for Ardennite-(As)
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References for Ardennite-(As)
Reference List:
von Lasaulx, A., Bettendorff, A. (1873) Ardennit, ein neues Mineral. Ann. Phys. Chem., 149, 241-251.
Lacroix, A. (1893) MinĂŠralogie de la France et de ses colonies Vol. 1. Library Polytechnique, Paris.
Localities for Ardennite-(As)
Locality List
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- This locality has estimated coordinates.
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- Good crystals or important locality for species.
- World class for species or very significant.
(TL) - Type Locality for a valid mineral species.
(FRL) - First Recorded Locality for everything else (eg varieties).
Struck out - Mineral was erroneously reported from this locality.
Faded * - Never found at this locality but inferred to have existed at some point in the past (e.g. from pseudomorphs).
All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
All localities listed without proper references should be considered as questionable.
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Salmchâteau, Vielsalm, Luxembourg, Wallonia, Belgium